Check x570 boards prices (I mean top ones, and they are much simpler and weaker).
All main board makers specially requested AMD to help them hike the prices to the roof.
We now have same cartel where you can't buy chipset even for repairs.
If any company could just buy all main motherboard chips like chipset and multicontrollers (it is more easy, but also restricted) - we will see big failure of Taiwanese cartel.
None of current Chinese companies are allowed to make their own mainboards due to lack of chipsets supply (they only use desoldered chips from old boards).
Gigabyte Aorus TRX40 Xtreme - 13+3 VRM Phases
Will also have USB 3.2 Gen 2 ports, as well as 10 Gigabit Ethernet controller.
Issue with VRM is that it is extremely packed on small space, making it very inefficient in heat spreading.
Samples of new top motherboards on X299X Aorus Xtreme Waterforce example
EU price is 1700 EUR per MB only.
OMFG, that's crazy. Recently I updated my whole PC (mobo, ram, cpu, ssd) for that amount o_0
New socket name is sTRX4
Only change will be reshuffling of some contacts to prevent compatibility, similar to that AMD made to Ryzen 1st gen on X570 (special modification of BIOS preventing them working!)
Announcement will be November 7th, not 5th as AMD intended initially
Upcoming models
Package photos
MSI motherboards
Info embargo lifts in a few hours at 9 AM (EST).
The actual 'on-shelf / launch' embargo would be lifted on the 25th of November, again at 9 AM (EST).
Ryzen Threadripper 3990X announcement will happen in 2020 only (as now AMD wants to sell same CPU under EPYC brand with big premium).
Other leak suggest $1399 and $1999 prices in US without taxes (very close).
EU price will be around 1500 EUR, 2500 EUR.
And you did not saw motherboard prices yet.
Top models are expected to reach $2000.
Meet the new AMD - ripping you off, big time!
Cost to manufacturing for 64 core chiplet based EPYC is below $200! Expect new housing price hikes in California.
Chipset difference to x399
CPU actually still has 64 PCI-Express lines, not gen 4.0 x
AMD made 8 lines connection to chipset for sole reason - break compatibility with x399 due to Taiwan makers request and their greedy investors.
The AMD TRX40 chipset is almost 100% X570, just PCI-Express gen 4.0 is configured differently to accommodate the wider x8 chipset-bus.
As you can see it is ZERO reason to put 8 PCIe lines (and they are v4.0!) to such chipset and with CPU having so much PCIe lines by itself.
It is some kind of AMD abortion, just reuse of horribly underpowered x570 chipset.
This last slide is also very interesting an and it means that AMD is actually specially limit Threadripper chips by releasing TRX40 chipset, as IO die is actually 8 memory channel capable.
ASRock TRX40 Taichi and Creator
Taichi ports
Creator ports
ASUS ROG Zenith II Extreme
MSI Creator TRX40
Gigabyte TRX40 AORUS
Features
Features
Features
Links
Well, Vitaliy, what do you think: from Gigabyte models, Designare looks like the most reliable in case of heatspreading, does not it?
I'll post specific info to http://www.personal-view.com/talks/discussion/23008/amd-strx4-trx40-trx80-hedt-motherboard-selection-guide-for-video-editors#Item_11
Just need some time.
Thanks for immediate answer, Vitaliy! Anyway all of boards are not available in Russia yet. Gonna watch out that page.
And this is nice reason why prices are such
As it allows all such contracts, where AMD can pay tens of millions of very complex hidden bribes :-)
Current Threadripper rumors are that we can never see 64 core version.
Or it can be restricted to workstation TRX80 chipset.
Also rumors are that AMD had some management fight and brainstorming how to make new chips incompatible with x399. Only logical reason for it is weaker VRM on many x399 boards that max out at 250-280 watts already. All else is just plain maid up things, like fake doubling of PCIe lines to chipset that no one asked for.
64 core CPU will come , but at high price and 2020 only
Real TDP will also be exorbitant, rumors are that you'll need specially made waterblock for efficient cooling.
Rumors are that AMD decided to hike price 50% up to $3000.
In 2020 Intel and AMD must finally change positions in HEDT market, where each and every AMD offer will be more expensive for the same performance (but will consume less power, that is important for large render farms and such).
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