Btw, one thing I forgot to mention as 13" competition below $1000 Surface Book offers
I don't expect an up-to-date desktop machine from Apple any more
It is very high probability that you won't see any desktop machines from them at all.
If you like some degree of privacy, use CP/M, I suppose they forgot how to hack that ;-)
You can also setup smart router and filter out everything except browser data (and exclude many destinations also here) and some torrents :-)
I have moved from PC to Apple about twenty years ago, mainly because of the underlying UNIX base and the good performance at the time. Now I'm pretty sure I'll switch back to PC before retirement. I've upgraded my old workhorses (MacPro cheese graters) to nearly the same performance – which is not too impressive – for half the price of the unreliable new MacPro and intend to use them until they die. I don't expect an up-to-date desktop machine from Apple any more.
I'm using a mid 2012 MBP a lot, very reliable too, but probably my last Apple laptop (no DVD in there, though).
The only thing I'll miss is the brilliant integration between my phone and my other computers. Can be done on PCs and Android too, but less comfortable. And sharing my data with the authorities? I have no illusions there, W10 is more like broadcasting my data, Apple is DoD, but they get at you nevertheless. If you like some degree of privacy, use CP/M, I suppose they forgot how to hack that ;-)
Back to DELL INSPIRON 15.6'' 7559 i7-6700HQ 16GB 1TB UHD 4K TOUCH GTX960M 4GB W10PRO $849
I mentioned before
All is good and it can work under very high load, it is modular, easy to replace battery
Display measurements and such can be seen at
http://www.3dnews.ru/930231/page-2.html
Yet at the test time 4K panel and BIOS had very strange algorithms of constantly changing color adjustments and such.
HDMI is 1.4, hence not possible to connect 4K monitor for work.
So if you want such, get only 1080p version.
Otherwise I hoped that 4K notebooks screen issues are gone - nope, still in full power and glory.
The Verge editor-in-chief Nilay Patel tweeted this afternoon that he was informed by Apple that “it’s out of the stand-alone display biz.”
And it is very strong rumors that in spring they will be out of desktop market as well focusing OS X only on slim notebook and elite consumers.
Smart people deciphered Apple plans, note that Adobe take active role in all this.
Their idea is to sell you software by parts and require micro payments for making them still function, enabling tools or pay to rise artificial restrictions.
Adobe will also offer MacBook Pro users new plans in 2017 with payment not per month, but per hour via Apple Pay.
Why wouldn't the Macbook air disappear? Its main selling point of using a better CPU than the Macbook while being smaller than the 13" Macbook Pro is gone. The new 13" Macbook Pro which still has the top row of keys is the obvious replacement product.
And as far as longevity conspiracy theories go, I still pretty regularly use a 11" mid-2011 Macbook Air (at purchase time in August of 2012, I maxed it out with a 2ghz i7 and 8GB of RAM) and I've since replaced the anemic 128GB SSD with a larger aftermarket one. The screen resolution is a bummer, but otherwise for day-to-day tasks like web browsing, etc, it's still just fine. I'm sure it'll eventually die. After 4+ years, I'll be sad, but I won't be too upset with Apple. I've had my money's worth out of it (and then some). I dunno that I'll rush out to replace it - assuming that the unix-like environment in Windows 10 keeps improving, it will keep moving toward being a viable replacement.
Here is an article that points to some of the Apple strategies/failings, if anyone here still likes Apple (…sarcasm!)
The MacBook Air line maybe disappearing and the iPad Pro may be considered their new cheap laptop, according to the author. Also mentioned the new MBP's max out at 16GB of RAM.
Yeah the IBM thinkpad keyboards are the best feeling IMHO.. in fact I'm using one now on my T42.. I have an HP probook and don't really like the action
Where is good reason by TP keyboards was such - as they had been designed by professional engineers with only task to feel great and work long. Not because they wanted make notebook thinner or needed backlight. I had some long discussion and it is considered among guys who had many TP that 600 series had been pinnacle after this it was slow descending plato and after Lenovo times it is big ride to the shit.
Btw, TP600 still can work perfect as go to writing machine. Install XP, older Office and it'll work fine. Battery just need new elements if you buy old.
Apple has such a good scheme going. My sister has had 3 Apple computers go bad,not too long after the apple care period ended. She did manage to get an ipod touch replaced at least..long ago.
Yeah the IBM thinkpad keyboards are the best feeling IMHO.. in fact I'm using one now on my T42.. I have an HP probook and don't really like the action
@ zcream
I still use a mid 2012 MBP but found no DVD drive of mine.
@ Vitaliy_Kiselev
they remove Wisdom Teeth SD to make profit for all those fancy face -;)
Love it ;-) ! This is so true Apple PER (Painful Expensive Removal)
Very funny saying I found:
Apple is like visiting a dentist:
- Painful.
- Expensive.
- They remove something you use.
Best innovations:
4x Thunderbolt 3 ports. Yep, for moving a shit ton of data and GPU-compute in a portable package.
Bi-directional Thunderbolt 2 / Thunderbolt 3 adapter cable for $49 (cheapest Thunderbolt cross converter anywhere)
the screen, well, personally I find any res above fhd unseeable on less than 17¨screens, but I´m old and half blind
You won't see it on normal distance, except of smoother overall feel. But to check detail you can always bring it really close :-)
You'll be surprised, but we will soon see lots and lots of 5",6" and 7" 4K screens.
Btw considering notebooks keyboards.
Simple plan here:
the processor is skylake with hyperthreading, the nvidia with gddr5 is as good as the onboard iris 540 graphics on the mac, the screen, well, personally I find any res above fhd unseeable on less than 17¨screens, but I´m old and half blind
....and since it's less than a third of the macbooks price, well, imho few people would see any differences, if any, whatsoever , I rest my case !
and I still agree with zcream,and in doing this I found this 13inch from 2012 selling for around 5 bills on amazon , and it´s got usb3, firewire 800, and thunderbolt ports , you know, back when apple still believed in putting more than one port
Thanks for heads up.
Btw, previous "innovators" already did it, on their level
Yep, it is the model where they killed trackpoint keys. Also was very "smart" idea.
Lol. Do you think the previous versions (the 15" ones available last week) will have the same problems?
Only interesting is 15" one. And it can have issues. As you can do anything, but can not change physics. You have small weak heatsinks and extra slim turbines. Under heavy load all this must sound not too nice, especially after some time to get some wear and dirt on blades. Intel CPUs can throttle very easy as they have internal sensors.
It is cheap U CPU with low end GPU and slow. Plus I am really not sure about screen, seems to be TN.
In reality it is exactly zero reason to get Windows note without external good GPU and 4K IPS touch screen.
@Vitaliy_Kiselev Interesting point about the overheating. Do you think the Apple desktop iMacs will be safe and reliable to do video editing without the computer breaking down?
ok...I exaggerated alittle...but not much ...$450
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834315422
compared to the lower end at $1500
ps ....coming from a half dozen macs or more ...and I agree with zcream....buy a used one. My last macbook pro came on a trade, runs 10.6.8...has firewire 800. The only thing it misses is usb3
....for this starting price you can buy a real laptop ! I ...personally....would never spend another dime on appleanythings . The first decade they were the leader. Now they´re orwellian slopmakers. At least they included a headphone jack ! You can get this computer in windowsland for about $350....might have to put in the ssd for 70 bucks !
You can't get i7 Skylake HQ 4 core notebook with 1080p and up good IPS screen for anything near such sum.
Ones I found are good refurbished notes like
DELL INSPIRON 15.6'' 7559 i7-6700HQ 16GB 1TB UHD 4K TOUCH GTX960M 4GB W10PRO $849
Btw resolution still are 2560×1600 for the 13-inch Pro and 2880×1800 for the 15-inch model.
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