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GH3 Best Video Settings
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  • @yak What difference do you see between -5 NR and 0 NR?

  • @sph1nxster Always -5. Test done with Natural -5,-2,-5,-5 and Natural 0,-2,-5,-5

  • @yak what do you have NR set to though?

  • @starios

    Try matching your 0 to your -5, when I do that I see less noise in the 0 settings.

    Here is my test.

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  • @yak in page 4 in this topic I uploaded a test in contrast to show how noisy is to shoot with contrast in 0 and in -5 when boosting mids, I disagree about loosing details in -5 but I believe as nobbystylus says that contrast -5 is responsible for the skin tones issue

  • Interesting. So the flattening of contrast is possibly responsible for the skin tones issue?

  • @yak Many thanks for your informative post. I'm already in the middle of a shoot but will test this new setting soon!

  • Tha's a great finding to me will test soon, thanks :-) @yak

  • After doing other tests with the GH3, I came to the conclusion that 0 contrast is the way to go.

    Here is the same shot with -5 contrast and 0 contrast, I shot directly at a light bulb. When set to 0 there is a bit more blown out details, but when you reduce exposure in post, you discover that there's more shades of white when set at 0, but the absolute blow out is about the same.

    The opposite is also true when shooting shadows, boost your global level in post and see what happens.

    So It confirms that when you shoot -5 you are compressing shadows and highlights and sretching (and losing details) in the mid tones.

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  • I shot an interview this morning and I shot the same scene both with Panny 35-100 and with an Helios 44 52mm. I compared the image and I have to say (sigh!) the image shot with the Helios was better (in terms of skin tones). The Panny flattened tones while the Helios was smoother and with more detail in terms of color variations. I'm considering using my (cheap) Russian lenses for the next job.

  • Beautiful work, Chris!

    I'm in the camp that is liking the GH3 better than the GH2. GH2 always went too green/blue for me, and was unforgiven with DR. GH3 seems more like other DSLRs I've used in terms of latitude and color but retains the GH2s crispness, in my opinion. It's better in low light and it also seems very gradeable, maybe more than the GH2, despite the lower bit-rate. I haven't tested scientifically but I do use them side by side fairly often.

  • @flablo the video from Chris74 verify the exact opposite, Natural -5 -5 -2 -5 is almost the flattest settings, probably you are talking about quick shots in gh3, and yes, bmpcc from what I see is from another planet!

  • @Chris74 Very very nice!

  • @ aljimenez

    You cant use profiles or picture adjustments with "creative mode/high dynamic" . All you can do is amount of color (WB-button) an EV. It is useful in extreme conditions like heavy backlight (sunsets) or christmas lights. Absolutely not for skin tones.

    By the way I prefer GH3 color rendering for skin tone. GH2 is often a little greenish or "dead" compared to GH3 and especially shadows are softer and mushier and less colorful in GH2.

  • @jdude Thanks so much!

  • @Chris74 Brilliants shoots and grading. For me thats the best footage I have seen from a GH3. Awesome

  • I have a BMPCC also and I can assure you that the "flat" footage coming out of it is literally another planet, in terms of what you can pull out of it in post. And I'm speaking of ProRes, not even raw. In cases where no "special" grading is needed, on the GH3 I guess it's better to try to bake the look directly into the footage as much as possible, without trying to make it so flat and hoping to add everything in post. Now if only the LCD image wouldn't look like an animated GIF, that would be easier to obtain ... :)

  • @yak I'm not a Final Cut user but would like to look at that motion template. Since I'm a Premiere and Sony Vegas user, is there a conversion tool for .moef -> .cube LUT file?

  • Even before any hacks it may be worth understanding what it can do combined with Picture Styles. Contrast adjustments, etc. It may behave differently with mp4, mov, etc... Al

  • It definitely warrants attention for when the hack comes around, but a lack of manual exposure makes it all but useless for anything serious right now.

  • It has really gone unnoticed that @Vesku discovered that setting HDR, which needs to have non-RAW setting to Picture Quality, does something when recording movies. Nowhere in the manual is it explained that HDR works in movie recording, nor what it does during movie recording. This is indeed an interesting discovery of the GH3 and warrants some experimentation. I have done some experiments and it does look like some sort of HDR is done with each frame. I don't know if this HDR is worth doing for cinematic movies, but it warrants further investigation by the community, IMHO. I am finding that under some conditions it does a fantastic job of increasing dynamic range... Al

  • How do you guys feel about shooting a Whibal grey card on AWB and then white balancing in post with that grey card? I tried setting a custom white balance and it turned the image way too saturated.

  • @yak Thanks for the compliment. I agree that if you go for the -5 then you need to grade agressive. But that's what I love :)