Thanks, i'll check these possibilities! But I must confess I am still considering the F07k first, plus the F09k later if I need more impedance or connections :-) Also I think at least I'll try the Takstar TS-671.

Furthermore, as they are suppose to be kind of good quality, I pretend to use them sometimes connected to my computer (while editing or hearing music...) through a DAC.

OK. In this case Takstar Pro 80 or Takstar TS-670 is that you need. :-) I did not checked later, but they use TS-671 constructive, just closed ones.

But get my advice, get TS-671 also. It is the most comfortable headphones I ever had and with most open sound, and I have not small number.

@Pedro_ES

OK, I just referenced first I saw In items descriptions.

Let me explain, forums problem is that frequently asking for advice people come with their own decision in head and contrary to personal talk it is hard to spot initially sometimes. :-)

do you think that the sennheiser 280 pro (or the 380 pro) are good enough?

I do not know. Closed phones usually are not best choice anyways.

If you ask me, I'll go SMSL SD-650 + Taskstar TS-671. And later, looking for some time to get good price at german ebay and such will get Philips Fidelio X1 phones.

@Vitaliy_Kiselev The impedance they recommend are higher:

Fiio Olympus E10: "Suitable for the headphone impedance 16-300Ohms"

Fiio E07k: "Headphone impedance (Recommended): 16-150Ohms"

Fiio E09k: "Suitable headphone impedance range is: 16-600Ohms"

Thanks a lot for the information. I am going to buy the Superlux HD-660 headphones for monitoring and I was thinking that it doesnt make much sense to spend a lot more in a DAC. I was thinking about getting the one that @drdave recommend (HIFI NEW Version DAC Decoder TE7022 CS4398 24Bit/96Khz USB) but for a little more the Fiio E10 seemed more polite.

Anyway i'll check these options...

@Vitaliy_Kiselev I dont have much knowledge about this kind of devices...which are the advantages of bigger amps over this models? I think the ones that you suggest above are not shipped to Spain... does anybody recommend a good option in the 80$ price range?

Fiio E07K

http://www.fiio.com.cn/products/index.aspx?ID=100000012071912&MenuID=105026002

It can be use with the Fiio E09k.

89$ in Amazon

Fiio Olympus E10

http://www.fiio.com.cn/products/index.aspx?ID=100000028262517&MenuID=105026003

71$ in Amazon

They seems to get good reviews and good price. Does anybody have tried any of these?

@DrDave thanks for the detailed explanation. Now it makes sense. I'm guessing sound-editors and sound-mixers have something like this as a part of their editing computer.

@kronstadt A lot of ppl who work with audio want an external soundcard, which means no interference from the computer, to monitor and master the audio for CD, film, etc. It should be external, high quality, preferably neutral and detailed, without being fatiguing. Ideally, it should be 24 bit (or higher) and have ASIO driver capability. Some people like exotic sample rates, like 192 or 384, as well. ASIO allows you to bypass the internal crap in your computer so if something goes wrong, you can figure out what it is. You don't want for example the computer's mixer to be mixing away in the background. It can also give you low latency for when you are listening back to recorded sound.

Other ppl want a high quality DAC for their home stereo, or even for their TV (yes, I have one hooked up to my TV to feed a pair of speakers). Some of these have a high current speaker amp built in, so you don't need an amplifier. Some ppl just want a $50 box that makes their music sound better and could care less about the rest of it.

I've tested a bunch of these, for the high end I like the Mytek designs. But for the low end, small, beautifully made, with a clear, detailed sound I like this box. More than good enough for professional work:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/HIFI-NEW-Version-DAC-Decoder-TE7022-CS4398-24Bit-96Khz-USB-RCA-headphone-output-/140751305382?pt=US_Home_Audio_Amplifiers_Preamps&hash=item20c56e7aa6

There's a bunch of factors to consider in the DAC design, specifically whether it is really 24 bit or not--a lot of these DACs knock down the SR to 16 bit. Even some of the high end boxes fib about the bits.

But without going into the technical aspects, this is a great box for $50. Next step up are some of the musiland designs, they are very good.

I would stay away from boxes using the NEC 5532 chip, for long and complicated reasons. It can sound OK, but it often does not. This chip is the one most often replaced in an op amp upgrade. The CM6631chip is a pretty big seller in China, but as it is relatively new you may not have full driver support, so consider that. A lot of us use the Ploytec USB driver which gives low latency true ASIO for audio, other solutions, like the Musiland, use their own proprietary drivers. The box I linked to uses a OPA2132 op amps.

I used to make these with op amp sockets, so you could pop them out and try different ones, but there are now good ones available on line and I was never the best solderer.

If you want something in between the low end and the high end (and the $50 box is what I listen on most of the time), the mid level musilands are almost indistinguishable from the really expensive stuff, like this special dragon edition http://www.ebay.com/itm/2012-Musiland-Monitor-02-US-Dragon-USB-Sound-Card-Amplifier-DAC-/110937050590?_trksid=p3284.m263&_trkparms=algo%3DSIC%26its%3DI%26itu%3DUCI%252BIA%252BUA%252BFICS%252BUFI%26otn%3D21%26pmod%3D320978911528%26ps%3D54

And if you want the absolute state of the art, discrete electronics, this guy makes some very good boxes that have an isolated headphone circuit, with high gain throughout, all audiophile components http://www.audio-gd.com/Pro/Headphoneamp/Sparrow/SparrowEN.htm

Audio-gd stuff is mostly socketed, so you can swap out op amps and stuff. Like I said, though, the weiliang design is 24 bit, good converter and op amps, sounds good and is $50. Plus it is powered by USB.

Good stuff.

I used to use a Presonus Firebox as a headphone amp DAC and of course a recording interface.

Yes, of course. But many people really do not need all the complexity. Plus usually DACs, opamps, power design, on complex devices are worse.

@kronstadt

It is high quality headphone amps, ones that you use in studio with your headphones :-)

In same time works as DAC to your studio monitors,

Check topic title.

And you can use them in home just as headphone amp. Period.