Day 6 and still no woman has joined the conversation :)

The root word of feminism is feminine. I think this word means different things to different people. Maybe feminists need to find another word.

My wife likes electronic gadgets but she couldn't care less to get online and argue the merits of new technology or gadgets. She's not worried about replacing anything until it becomes obvious that the technology/gadget is outdated and becoming a hindrance in her day to day usage.

She is also a stay at home mom with 5 kids under the age of 5. We love eating our home cooked meals, I cook almost as much as she does, and we find that our family is healthier than most of our friends who eat a typical supersize me western style diet.

:)) ^^

Was it Aristotle or Kanye West who said "Now I ain't sayin' she a gold digger, But she ain't messin' with no broke niggas"?

This is a patriarchal world where a great deal of women have little to no economic/political/sexual/etc freedom. Men have many kinds of power structures in place to keep it that way, religion being one of the many. As mentioned before feminism is a highly diverse field as is the context of it. It's a gross caricaturisation to see it only in terms of capitalistic developments.

I think feminism as well as gender are just shitty words.

As for "caricaturisation". All I am doing is describing and observing real results. Not imaginative.

Is real income of two working people is same as it was for one working man family? Yep.

Is number of small age ill children increased greatly? Yep.

Is housing industry happy to sell you three houses instead of one and at highly inflated prices? Of course.

Does it mean that you need to attach woman with chain and keep her in kitchen with small breaks to fucking and producing children? Nope :-)

Wow! This is really exciting. I've just found a hyperlink to the middle ages! It seems like people in those times loved to use non-arguments like 'Its not natural'. So interesting!

And I found big amount of people who are afraid to speak openly, using their own heart and their own brains, instead of social pressure and stereotypes.

I've got a gut feeling that a lot of what has been touched on here regarding nurturing mothers gets down to the cost of housing, and the fact that so many young mothers have to work and make the sacrifice of giving up fulltime motherhood. So often the cost of childcare leaves the womans' income with little left anyway, but without her working they won't qualify to get a loan in the first place.

Thing is that all came in sync. Soaring housing prices (and they became much worse since then), fighting feminism on all media channels, idea to put children out of parents house as early as it is possible, idea that divorce is no big deal, idea that sex and money are biggest values and we must look and learn from ones who have lot of either.

All of it has simple explanation - elites just wanted to increase exploitation and increase their power and income. One ill guy (single children in his family) who pays 10x that his parents paid for medicine and education. Has outstanding education and house credits. It is ideal brainwashed and fully controllable hamster. Add here possibility to replace other non born children by illegal immigrants (who are even more controlled). Add here that now parents live in different places because of divorce. It was ideal target for people who are much worse than Hitler.

I've got a gut feeling that a lot of what has been touched on here regarding nurturing mothers gets down to the cost of housing, and the fact that so many young mothers have to work and make the sacrifice of giving up fulltime motherhood. So often the cost of childcare leaves the womans' income with little left anyway, but without her working they won't qualify to get a loan in the first place.

If you wan't to dig into the demographics of a lucky country such as mine, youll find that so much real estate is still being bought up by the first wave of baby boomers after the 2nd world war. These people are well into there sixties, inherited the parents home, bought and own a 3/4 bedroom home, and are still buying up more housing at stupid prices as part of there self funded super annuation schemes, and also claiming negative gearing, and hopefully they will also claim a part pension and seniors card. What chance do there grand kids have of having a mum being available 24/7 in there early years like a lot of us did.

Well maybe it's just history repeating itself, and because of housing costs we will be forced to live like my grandparents with 3 generations living together, and because of this kids will come home from school to a family envoiroment with fresh food on the table that nan or Pop bought during the day whilst mum and dad work.

Sorry if I went too off topic.

They're all in the Kitchen... where they belong.

LOL.

It is interesting to calculate health damage and economic effect due to fast food and half backed food that replaced normal good quality food in many families with working woman.

Feminist girls are great at behaving like men, but my goodness do they make lousy women. Vive la difference!

but I also feel the percentage of men on here relative to those into video production is pretty low.

It is not so low as you think :-)

For all of my friends. colleagues who are in the creative/technology field... I can't think of one who spends any time lurking on a forum, much less posting.

And it is strange and sad statement. Btw typical view for people who are not active on communities.

Sorry but I just can't find any basis for that statement.

You can just look at teachers opinion for early grades.

Statistics about children who live with single working parent.

Statistics with children on artificial milk in their early life (and this very significantly affects brain and overall development).

Statistics for EU and US birth rate (for core white population).