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Monkeys and shitty tomatoes
  • "Heirloom tomatoes don't ship very well because they're softer. And frankly, they're all different shapes and sizes." This makes them more difficult to pack.

    There's something else you'll notice as these tomatoes start to get ripe — something central to this story. The part of the tomato near the stem — what's called the shoulder of the fruit — stays green longer.

    "I think it is an issue for the consumer," says Rice, "because people do buy with their eyes. And green shoulders also mean it's not entirely ripe or not as soft and tasty there."

    Those green shoulders turn out to be more significant than you might think. In this week's issue of the journal Science, scientists report that when they disappeared from modern tomatoes, some of the tomato's taste went with them.


    Here's how. Sometime before 1930, somewhere in America, a tomato grower noticed a plant that was producing distinctive fruit. These fruit turned red from stem to tip in a uniform way. They didn't have any of those bothersome green shoulders.

    It was a new mutation, and plant breeders saw it as the next big thing.

    They called it the "uniform ripening" trait. In 1930, the agricultural experiment station in Fargo, N.D., released a new tomato variety containing this mutation. The variety was called All Red.

    Ann Powell, a researcher at the University of California, Davis, says it spread through the entire tomato industry. "It's a little hard to find a variety in modern production that doesn't have it," she says.

    Powell is one of the scientists who now has discovered the genetic change responsible for "uniform ripening."

    She was studying some genetically engineered tomato plants for another reason when she noticed that one of the added genes resulted in green tomatoes that were really dark green. It struck her as odd. "The leaves were not dark green. It was only the fruit that were dark green," she recalls.

    Since this foreign gene had interesting effects on the ripening of fruit, Powell and her colleagues started looking for a similar gene that occurs naturally in tomatoes. They found it — and by coincidence, so did another research team on the other side of the country, at Cornell University.

    The researchers discovered that this natural tomato gene, when it works properly, produces those green shoulders on tomatoes. The darker green color comes from the chlorophyll in plant structures called chloroplasts, which is what converts sunlight into sugars for the plant. In fact, those dark green shoulders were making those old tomatoes sweeter and creating more flavor.

    The uniform-ripening mutation disabled this gene.

    "We find out that, oh my goodness, this is one of the factors that led to the deterioration of flavor in the commercial tomato," says Harry Klee, a professor of horticulture at the University of Florida.

    Via: http://www.npr.org/blogs/thesalt/2012/06/28/155917345/how-the-taste-of-tomatoes-went-bad-and-kept-on-going

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  • Great example of the law of unintended consequences.

  • Great example of the law of unintended consequences.

    Another thing is that many people never actually saw and eat good, proper tomatoes.

  • It is near impossible to buy good tomatoes in a grocery in the US. But a homegrown......mmmmmmmm. It's like night and day.

  • Homegrown is fantastic if you live in the right climate. For me in the Seattle area, there are few good varieties. Some of the better ones are actually Russian heirlooms.

  • http://www.onearth.org/print/14577

    The last 2 sentences of the article linked above go a long way in explaining why this shit is perpetuated.

  • I fail to see why people complain. Monkeys prefer fruits for their taste and nutritional value, whereas advanced civilized humans primarily measure their market value by strict standards of visual aesthetics based on "good" and "bad" mutations. Clearly the species with the superior reasoning has the right to inherit the earth. God himself even told me this is the law of nature, because he made it that way (or at least I read it in several books written by my fellow humans interpreting his messages). If we could only manufacture purely uniform synthetic tomatoes we could skip these petty ethical discussions altogether.

  • The last 2 sentences of the article linked above go a long way in explaining why this shit is perpetuated.

    It is not entirely true :-) As it had been fun to watch how replacement process was going here. Humans who lived in enviroument without any shitty tomatoes and who know that is right thing do anything and everything to avoid this shit.

    Monkeys prefer fruits for their taste and nutritional value, whereas advanced civilized humans primarily measure their market value by strict standards of visual aesthetics based on "good" and "bad" mutations. Clearly the species with the superior reasoning has the right to inherit the earth.

    LOL. It is exactly monkey who selects "red" ones and do it again and again. :-) Human uses his advantage to find things that is possible to eat.

  • What’s wrong with the supermarket tomato? Consumers say they lack flavor, so a University of Florida researcher led a global team on a mission to identify the important factors that have been lost and put them back into modern tomatoes.

    In a study published today in the journal Science, Harry Klee, a professor of horticultural sciences with UF’s Institute of Food and Agricultural Sciences, identifies the chemical combinations for better tomato flavor.

    http://news.ufl.edu/articles/2017/01/team-discovers-key-to-restoring-great-tomato-flavor.php

  • The key is to sell tomatoes at Trader Joes - and everybody will flock to them thinking it's the greatest tomato ever