@ Silent users of my settings :-)
I release new "GOLGOP3-13-MAX_SednaAQ1C_Standard_BETA1" setting.
I think that recording will stop shortly after not making especially 720/60p moderate so far. Since the I frame became quite small with 6GOP in 720/60p, I returned to 9GOP.
Stability (don't stop during recording) is thought as important especially in my settings.
*Deblocking tables are substituted by your liking.
Although the performance under lowlight is not different from a normal version, the image quality in the scene which requires high stress improves in this MAX version. However, with MAX version, playback in camera may not often be available in 24p. This is because the maximum frame size which can be played back by GH2 may be exceeded. Of course, the file which cannot be played back in camera can also be satisfactorily played in PC. Supposing you consider that the playback in a camera is important, I will not recommend you this setting. Please use normal version. However, IQ of MAX version is better than normal versions especially in high stressed scene, IMO.
Special thanks to @driftwood. :-)
Please try it!
*Of course, already combined with excellent audio tune @thepalalias's "Pasadena_Pulse_Audio_V2_Beta2"
NOTE:
*Although bit rate setups are quite high, the bit rate which actually appears are lower than these. Since the actual bit rate changes by the object to shoot, please confirm by yourself.
*24H and 24L are high quality 3GOP setting with super mega size I-frames.
*24p80%(30p) is available in 24L only.
*In PAL Mode, I especially recommend you use with SanDisk 95MB/s 64GB SDXC card strongly.
*In camera playback is sometimes not available in 24p. In other mode, Sometimes available after reboot the camera.(Not tested full yet, but probably)
*EX Tele works.(Not tested yet, but probably)
*Spanning in 24H, 24L with SanDisk 95MB/s 64GB SDXC Card. In other mode, need test.
*Spanning in other cards needs to be tested.
Please download original raw data from vimeo and check actual IQ.
You are welcome! :-) Did you enjoy Japan? If you do not mind, I would like to see the movie of the trip.
@ Silent users of my settings :-)
I have slightly changed BETA6 only in 60p and release "GOP3ZILLA-MAX_standard_V2_BETA7" setting.
Most characters of this BETA7 setting are the same as BETA6. Only 60p is changed. But I am not sure which is better BETA5, BETA6 or BETA7.
However, I think all these settings are very stable in all mode.
Please try it!
Please download original raw data from vimeo and check actual IQ.
Thanks for testing my settings! :-)
I realized now that the second half of your comment is added...
Although I have tried before the setting in which the B frame becomes large relatively, I am never pleased with I frame size becoming small too much. By such a reason, I am looking for the setting that the size of the I frame does not fall as much as possible, now.
Thanks again! :-)
Many thanks for detailed comparison test in FM2 thread! :-)
I think that the result may change by the difference in Deblocking Tables. I am just still going to improve further more. Please tell me the point which you noticed anything, thanks.
@driftwood Wow! Thanks for the tip! Thinking such is rational. :-)
@driftwood - "As soon as you go over Max GOP Size of 1,000,000 Bytes youre in troubled waters."
Very true, and that's why increasing the GOP-length won't necessarily make a patch more stable. At one point I was favoring a 3-frame GOP for 720p, but its high-detail performance didn't hold up as well the 6-frame GOP I used in Flow Motion v2.
Note also that the interlaced field encoding of FSH and HBR modes can be regarded as a kind of interleaved 540p60 mode. From that perspective, a 3-frame HBR GOP contains a 6-field GOP: I p B b B b. So in that way it makes sense to pair a 6-frame 720p GOP with a 3-frame 1080i GOP..
@bkmcwd GH2 Memory. Not enough for 60 frames per second. That is why.
As soon as you go over Max GOP Size of 1,000,000 Bytes youre in troubled waters.
You have to try and divide up the frames in the GOP accordingly - and that means allocating x to i frames, x to P/b frames - its like dividing up the pie. Once youre happy with whatever frame limit/ FBs, etc... keep tweaking 'GOP Related' together with increments/decrements in quantisation and encoder setting 720p ... but notice when B frames look great, i frames begin to get lower!
Fun game eh?! ;-)
@bkmcwd 720p60 is the highest bitrate the GH2 supports and it appears to suffer from a narrower range of stability than 720p50 or any other video mode. What were your shooting conditions in the shot that froze? It's puzzling that I haven't once been able to provoke 720p in v2.01 to fail, and I've put it through my most extreme tests repeatedly. Perhaps it does have an issue with wide-angle Panasonic zooms?
@karl Thanks for testing my setting! :-)
"Using this opportunity, I did some IQ comparison shots, I just posted them in the FlowMotion 2 thread."
I am looking forward to seeing the result very much.
"Regarding beta6: Are you sure that a higher bitrate for 720p60 is worth the risk to have the same problem that FM 2.01 still has? I mean: Can you actually see a better IQ for 720p60 in beta6 than in beta5?"
60p of FM2.01 was immediately frozen also in my test. BETA5 and BETA6 of me do not stop in the same test. For the moment in MY view, I think that around 53M is the limit of 60p. The efforts for raising IQ in the limit are continued. Although I have already begun the next improvement with another approach, I think that BETA6 is better than BETA5.
60p of FM2.01 was immediately frozen also in my test with pany 14-45mm F5.6 SS1/60 ISO1600. Why does only 60p of GH2 have so low tolerance?
@karl Yes, my tests of shooting video in automated Still-Frame modes worked reliabliy without failing in FH and H modes, where Flow Motion v2.01 is limited to peak bitrates of 60Mbps. FSH mode also seemed to work reliably as well, it appears the problem only occurs in 720p SH mode.
I installed GOP3ZILLA-MAX_Standard_V2_BETA5 right after I had tried FlowMotion 2.01 (which still has a 720p60 stopping issue for me).
Using this opportunity, I did some IQ comparison shots, I just posted them in the FlowMotion 2 thread.
Regarding beta6: Are you sure that a higher bitrate for 720p60 is worth the risk to have the same problem that FM 2.01 still has? I mean: Can you actually see a better IQ for 720p60 in beta6 than in beta5?
@ Silent users of my settings :-)
I have slightly improved BETA5 only in 60p and release "GOP3ZILLA-MAX_standard_V2_BETA6" setting.
Most characters of this BETA6 setting are the same as BETA5. Only 60p is improved so that the bit rate may become high a little.
I think this setting is very stable in all mode.
@ Silent users of my settings again :-)
I release new "GOP3ZILLA-MAX_Standard_V2_BETA5" setting.
*The difference from BETA3 is only 720/60p.
*The BETA4 is not good.
I think that recording will stop shortly after not making especially 720/60p moderate so far. Since the I frame became quite small with 6GOP in 720/60p, I returned to 9GOP.
Stability (don't stop during recording) is thought as important especially in my settings.
The stability of FSH, HBR, and SH were improved in this BETA5. And, in this setting, bitrate is slightly improved from BETA3.
*Deblocking tables are substituted by your liking.
Although the performance under lowlight is not different from a normal version, the image quality in the scene which requires high stress improves in this MAX version. However, with MAX version, playback in camera may not often be available in 24p. This is because the maximum frame size which can be played back by GH2 may be exceeded. Of course, the file which cannot be played back in camera can also be satisfactorily played in PC. Supposing you consider that the playback in a camera is important, I will not recommend you this setting. Please use normal version. However, IQ of MAX version is better than normal versions, IMO.
Please try it!
*Of course, already combined with excellent audio tune @thepalalias's "Pasadena_Pulse_Audio_V2_Beta2"
NOTE:
*Although bit rate setups are quite high, the bit rate which actually appears are lower than these. Since the actual bit rate changes by the object to shoot, please confirm by yourself.
*24H and 24L are high quality 3GOP setting with super mega size I-frames.
*24p80%(30p) is available in 24H and 24L both.
*In PAL Mode, I especially recommend you use with SanDisk 95MB/s 64GB SDXC card strongly.
*In camera playback is sometimes not available in 24p. In other mode, Sometimes available after reboot the camera.(Not tested full yet, but probably)
*EX Tele works.(Not tested yet, but probably)
*Spanning in 24H, 24L with SanDisk 95MB/s 64GB SDXC Card. In other mode, need test.
*Spanning in other cards needs to be tested.
Please download original raw data from vimeo and check actual IQ.
StreamParser results are here:http://personal-view.com/talks/discussion/comment/66026#Comment_66026
@ Silent users of my settings :-)
UPDATE(2012/06/01): I release new "GOP3ZILLA-MAX_Standard_V2_BETA5" setting.http://personal-view.com/talks/discussion/comment/66232#Comment_66232
I release new "GOP3ZILLA-MAX_Standard_V2_BETA3" setting.
I think that recording will stop shortly after not making especially 720/60p moderate so far. Since the I frame became quite small with 6GOP in 720/60p, I returned to 9GOP.
The stability of FSH, HBR, and SH were improved in this BETA3.
*Deblocking tables are substituted by your liking.
Although the performance under lowlight is not different from a normal version, the image quality in the scene which requires high stress improves in this MAX version. However, with MAX version, playback in camera may not often be available in 24p. This is because the maximum frame size which can be played back by GH2 may be exceeded. Of course, the file which cannot be played back in camera can also be satisfactorily played in PC. Supposing you consider that the playback in a camera is important, I will not recommend you this setting. Please use normal version.
Please try it!
*Of course, already combined with excellent audio tune @thepalalias's "Pasadena_Pulse_Audio_V2_Beta2"
NOTE:
*Although bit rate setups are quite high, the bit rate which actually appears are lower than these. Since the actual bit rate changes by the object to shoot, please confirm by yourself.
*24H and 24L are high quality 3GOP setting with super mega size I-frames.
*24p80%(30p) is available in 24H and 24L both.
*In PAL Mode, I especially recommend you use with SanDisk 95MB/s 64GB SDXC card strongly.
*In camera playback is sometimes not available in 24p. In other mode, Sometimes available after reboot the camera.(Not tested full yet, but probably)
*EX Tele works.(Not tested yet, but probably)
*Spanning in 24H, 24L with SanDisk 95MB/s 64GB SDXC Card. In other mode, need test.
*Spanning in other cards needs to be tested.
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