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Yes, and iPhone was also Sony idea :-)
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  • DazzaDazza

    IMO, patent and copyright laws have gone too far. They're defeating the very reason they were introduced long ago, and that was to promote innovation

  • rikyxxxrikyxxx

    @vladnik It's been a lot of years since the fist one said "a meteorite is coming on Apple". And all the "Apple=marketing" common places are not new as well.

    So, please, join the queue ;-)

    @deturbanator I don't like closed-minded people expecting that anybody should like what they like / do what they say.

    So you want me to buy what you, in your (not relevant) opinion, say is cheaper and better? Ok, no problem, just send me the money to get that stuff. Otherwise, my money, my stuff.

  • vladnikvladnik

    someone mention ecosystem created by Apple as genius move and i agree ... but that was closed system controlled from one source ...and irony is that first Apple commercial was 1984 spoof and IBM as big brother...and now most downloaded app for iphone is Jailbreak...Steve Jobs success formula was not design or tech innovation , it was a way to make customers a part of special elite club ... for few hundred (thousands) dollars u become someone who is better and sophisticated than rest of herd ...same technique now used by red camera ... go to redusers and feel that cult atmosphere ...all Jobs hippie talk didn't change a thing that Apple always been rich man toy and how many poor people would have chance to get their first computer if apple was only option ....now when innovation well is empty their way to control market is to sue all people who try to push technology beyond apple possibility to fallow .... apple is a dinosaur and looks like a meteorite is coming ....

  • disneytoydisneytoy

    How silly the light panel lawsuits are. How hard is it to figure out LEDs could be used together on a square panel as a light source. THEY ARE A LIGHT SOURCE!!!

  • disneytoydisneytoy

    I'm against most patent law. I've been on the other side, and the idea is to make your claims as broad as possible, like a spider's web. Even if you don't have a working technology. The reality is with billions of people it is beyond possible for independent individuals to come to the same or similar solutions. To penalize someone's hard work because they didn't have the fastest, sneakiest patent lawyers is silly, and in the end limits inventiveness.

  • AriaAria

    The genius isn't just in design, but how products get implemented and the ecosystem that you create to make the user experience a good one. Apple haters seem to never really understand that part of the whole success. I respect people that have vision to see things others don't necessarily see the value in. There are a lot of directors out there but only a few that put it all together in such a way that masses are touched. Respect the Vision!

  • jpbturbojpbturbo

    I still use my circa 2003 Sony Minidisc player because it hasn't stopped working perfectly.

  • CRFilmsCRFilms

    Wouldn't be the first time.

    Sony owned personal music market with the Walkman, everybody had one or wanted one. Now it's all iPod or iPhone. It doesn't matter who comes up with the idea, it's who comes to market with it first, and even being first isn't always as important.

  • jpbturbojpbturbo

    Aren't visual design features normally trademarked instead of patented? What's odd is things like the Fender Stratocaster and Telecaster, the headstock shape is trademarked but not the body shape.

  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

    I'm sure Sony is kicking their self for not patenting their design.

    If you look at the PDF, you'll find that Samsung claims that most Apple design patents are inapplicable because they contradict with law. Whole idea in patenting design is weird.

  • HillTop1HillTop1

    I'm sure Sony is kicking their self for not patenting their design. According to that link how come those companies that invented those technologies are not coming forward to say they invented the technology like the multi-touch? Interesting to see how this trail is gonna turn out.

  • brianlucebrianluce

    disallow mobile operators to supply phones with long term contracts.

    After years of crap contracts with crap rates and coverage, I've recently gone the month to month. I've also dumped my stupid 'Droid Epic and its 5 hour batter life and annoying touch screen for a dinky Samsung flip phone. Great coverage, portable size and 4 day battery life.

  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

    As for iPhones. One simple solution will make huge changes on the market - disallow mobile operators to supply phones with long term contracts. Phones must be sold separately.

  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

    Samsung obviously has the money and power to fight back, but what about all the smaller and unheard of companies that faced the wrath of apple?

    We don't really know that is happenig in reality, as Samsung has all the power to completely eliminate Apple from mobile and tablet markets. It looks like companies just came to some disagreement. Main point can be that Samsung offered too high value for their licenses, and Aplle due to being absent from mobile market and not having valuable patents want to make some value for free cross licensing.

    You can find it in reports.

  • deturbanatordeturbanator

    I agree. I'm surprised how conversational the document is. I would expect a lot of lawyer jargon.

    Really, the only thing I would have to "bash" on apple is the fact that we have seen them do this countless times, to numerous groups. Samsung obviously has the money and power to fight back, but what about all the smaller and unheard of companies that faced the wrath of apple? Its pretty wrong.

  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

    @deturbanator

    Yep, just let's be careful, to not turn it to the flame war. Topic is quite dangerous :-)

    But report and cases reviewed in it are interesting.

  • deturbanatordeturbanator

    I have never bought an apple product. There is always something better at a cheaper price. ALWAYS. It is too bad that most people purchase brand names, not the product themselves.

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