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Driftwood Settings, Series 5: Cluster v6 ULTRA RELIABLE, Mysteron, Crossfire, Quantum 9B, Sedna...
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  • A lot of great settings here! Thanks for all your effort (donation has been done as well)!

    Is it possible to create our own Crossfire-like settings? Am I thinking too simple when I say, that one only has to copy/paste the text lines from each ini-file? For example, I would like to have a Cluster v6 Nebular with an Intra-setting on 24p like Canis. Could I then only take all the lines handling 1080p24 from the Canis-file and copy them over? Unfortunately I have seen a line saying "1080i50 and 1080p24 GOP Size=". So 24p and HBR must always have the same GOP or can it be separated?

    Thanks!

  • @FEHA - thank you!

    Natural, all -2, no Color Grading (out of Cam) Lens: Pana 14-42mm, ND4 Pana 45-200mm, no ND

  • @Butt , great video, what was film mode settings ? Also the lens ? Great skin tones, any color grading ?

  • @driftwood , is there possibility to change the matrix of Cluster v6 GOP6 from Nebula to Sedna if, than how ? I like the GOP6 for great average bit rate but some how the skin tones on Sedna looks better ... Using Standard Film Settings -2,-2,0,-2 ...

  • cluster6 gop6 24p

  • 'Final Cut Pro 7 User Manual' has a nice basic/quick explanation for Video Compression, GOP and a few other items. Hopefully, it will be of some help ...it helped me. Just keep scrolling down ...lot to read.

    Here's the link: http://documentation.apple.com/en/finalcutpro/usermanual/index.html#chapter=C%26section=12%26tasks=true

  • @marks GOP = Group of Pictures.

    A Long Gop is typically made up of i, p and b frames. ibbpbbpbbpbb... repeating = 12 GOP (Classic long GoP PAL, As found in the setting Cluster v6 12/15 GOP) ibbpbbpbbpbbpbb... repeating = 15 GOP (Classic Long GoP NTSC, As in the setting Cluster v6 12/15 GOP)

    A typical short GOP could be 3 GOP made up of just intra frames and b or p frames. As in ibb...ibb...repeating - as found in bkmwcd or lpowell settings...

    Intra only settings such as Sedna, Canis Majoris, Quantum 9B etc... are a single frame GOP made up of all i frames - as in iiiiiiiiii... etc

    Any GOP will always start with an i frame as reference.

    If you need to read up on GOPs wiki will give you a good starting point;-

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Group_of_pictures

    Visually, its down to how the GOP is broken down into macroblocks, transformed, weighted, quantised & restructured - rate control /bitrate /GOP / buffers etc... that decides the quality. Long GOP can look equally as good as short GOP. Motion - each side have their arguments. Long GOP is more effecient than short GOP (less bitrate is consumed because of prediction). Shorter GOP consumes much more bitrate for arguably better quality.

    Each have their merits - but whatever the GoP - YOU decide what you like using YOUR eyes.

  • Not sure where to put this, so hopefully it's OK here. This was my first day testing Sedna AQ20 Skin tone. No grading yet, but I will likely do a bit later along with some audio fixin. Shot with Canon 35mm F2 Concave FD (great lens). 1080 24p, ISO was low, and the film speed was either 50 or 100. The room has a bit of yellow tint, and the lens does too from the thorium. I had to pin myself in the corner of the room to get the shots I got, but all and all I am happy. Really like the look with this patch and lens. Password is Caliente

  • Rough and Ready test of Crossfire Green Screen Matrix. All done in AVID with the 1 click spectra matte .. added a touch of blue and a lens blur to the background still, which I rendered a year ago from DAZ Studio 3.

    It's a 50mm/1.4 Rokkor @f5.6 with a Kowa 16h.

    Not sure what my test aim was, it produced an easy key.

    It's been taken in at DNxHD 175Mbits, this is rendered from the 36Mbit proxy

  • Sorry to ask this. I tried searching the net about gop and only got republican and democrat crap. Then I tried spelling out GOP and got info on how to hang pictures on a wall!! What is the visual difference between say a 6 GOP and 12-15 GOP....all other settings being equal??

    Thanks Mark

  • @driftwood mentioned that we should stick with ss multiple of frame rate... what ss should we use in VMM 80% (it uses 24H settings in 30p)?

  • @ Onionbrain Makes me proud to be a local! Very nice job.

  • @janis and @driftwood

    The biggest thing that matters for stabilizer work is the frame rate. Anything at 30p or below is going to stink -- it's got nothing to do with "compression" of any of the settings. What you really want to do is test both settings at 60p.

    There's one more strange issue with the GH2 and stabilizers. The last time I had a GH2 on a Steadicam, the traditional 60p at 1/60th created more blur than any other camcorder I've used at the same setting. For whatever reason I had to increase the shutter to at least 1/80th. As usual, anything above 1/100th resulted in that strobe effect.

    Finally, the best stabilizer trick is to re-interpret your 60p footage to 24p -- resulting in the slow motion effect. This won't make bad footage look smooth, but it will make smooth footage look great.

    Which lens were you using?

  • @act Of course its because the 128Gb card is SDXC Thanks Act was scratching my head there.

  • @mo7ies

    Extreme PRO 45mb/s cards have some problem with the GH2, but Extreme non-Pro 45mb/s cards are as good as the 30mb/s version.

  • @itimjim it's the ISCO 1.75x compact anamorphic. yes, cropped at the edges. but I honestly dont know if I figured out the best way to handle this footage yet.

    @Oedipax thanks!

  • @Craig_R Spanning 24H and 24L works on SDXC. And don't span on SDHC. 24L too. 16 and 32GB are SDHC. 64 and 128GB - SDXC. Driftwood Orion settings spans on 24L @SDHC with higher bitrate. I think Sedna 24L too.

  • @Craig_R: Thanks, yes I know. ;) I studied it. Don't really like lower than 50 ss but for static scenes it's ok. But I feel it is less noticeable with Cluster v6. I really like this patch. Not too big file sizes. Much less noise than some other patches too. :)

  • @driftwood

    Shot a short segment of a commissioned film with 'Drewnet" before "Nebular" was released. Compared the two, Nebular seems sharper and less noisy. Am I the only one who noticed this? Great work! Can't wait for Cluster v7

  • @kanintesova All Gh2 suffer from this issue as far as I know if you drop the shutter speed 1/40 and lower it vanishes if you raise the shutter speed the band moves up the screen.

  • @mo7ies Yeah I know the 64Gb 95mb/s cards are best but the cards I have are free from work so I wanted to see if they worked fine. I just don't understand why the 128Gb 45mb/s card is fine for spanning 24H and the 16Gb 45mb/s is not my be the 128Gb 45mb/s cards are faster than the 16Gb 45mb/s cards. Thanks For the Link I might have to put my hand in my pocket and find a good price in the UK

  • Anyone else noticed that the issue with the "line/band" at high ISOs on the lower third (1/50 ss) is much less prominent with CLUSTER V6? Maybe on other patches too?

    I am so happy! :)

    THANK YOUs!

  • @Craig_R do not use 45MB/s cards. They are not producing stable results with GH2. Instead, use 95MB/s cards, I own two of them (64GB each) and am planning on getting a third one, and all is well here with spanning! http://goo.gl/gbQf4

  • @driftwood Actually, I've been using 3.64d since I hacked my GH2 for the first time, just a few months ago. I started using Andrew Raid settings (EOSHD 88), then moved to Ralph (Sanity), and now, finally, I'm testing one of your settings (Cluster v6). Thanks for your prompt response and clear answer.

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