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AT875R mic phantom powered directly by the GH2
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  • Maybe it'd be better to post that in the EM320E topic instead of here. http://personal-view.com/talks/discussion/3333/htdz-em320e-and-other-cheap-microphones#Item_30

  • got my em320e mic this week and dismounted it :D

    first info:

    • it has 2 capsules, one in the tip an another about 5cm (2inch) deeper

    • it has 2 amplifier stages both with C1740 transistor

    • pin 3 of the XLR is not connected (no balanced signal)

    • it seems the deeper capsule is not supplied (not active) in the normal mode, only the tip one and I think both are supplied in tele mode (don't remember exactly)

    I am thinking to supply it from GH2 - there seems to be 4.7V out of it (I didn't check myself that), and I think the 4.7V could give the signal more headroom - in tele position it sounds limited in both frequency and dynamic compared to normal. I need to add a wire from the audio signal pad to the supply pad, but I need to check it more before I do.

    Maybe also change the capsules later. I found on farnell a capsule that goes 50Hz-16kHz

  • John, my guess is yes, but you'll just have to try.

  • @balazer Thanks once again. I am getting my camera next week. I have the i river h140 recorder which has 40gb hard disk space on it.(fits into the pocket) http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,1623026,00.asp.

    I also have two excellent lapel microphones soldered together to a stereo pin with 10 ft of cable.Hope these mics might work on my gh2.Darren the audio professional who made these excellent mics talks about them on the dvinfo forum. http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/archive/index.php/t-42185.html

    I can always keep going back to the " i river" combo as before to get additional "safe" audio track along with the on board camera audio.

    Thanks once again for the help.

  • @balazer would the AT875R work on 1.5V? There are some pocket recorders that only provide 1.5V. Yes, ideally, you buy one with XLR and phantom power. But I'm looking to have a really small pocketable recorder first, like Yamaha W24.

  • The Sony ECM-NV1 is not likely to work with 2.5 V if it calls for 48 V. But there's no harm in trying it with the cable you bought.

    The cheapest way to get a dynamic mic like your Shure SM58 connected to the GH2 is with this transformer: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/589872-REG/Pearstone_8111240_LMT100_Low_to.html I haven't used transformers myself, so I'm not sure how well they perform. My guess is that a DC blocking capacitor would do better, but as far as I know you can't buy a pre-made cable with one. If you want to try building your own cable or modifying the one you bought, there's info here: http://www.rcrowley.com/CamAdapt.htm Don't try the Shure mic with the direct cable you bought. Dynamic mics can be damaged by external voltage.

    Of course the most flexible way of hooking XLR mics up to the GH2 is with something like a Beachtek or JuicedLink, but those are for a different topic of discussion.

  • @balazer Forgot to ask. I impulsively bought this female xlr with male 2.5 pin. http://www.kvconnection.com/product-p/km-x172-2310.htm. I thought I would use it on my ecmnv1.Later I realised that it asks for phantom power. Is this cable of any use anywhere in the above scheme of things ? Or is it a waste.? Sorry for the repetition.

  • @balazer Thanks for the response. I am not able to get any details about the Ecm Nv1.It came with the pd170 camera. It is a uni directional condenser mic and needs 48v phantom power. Is there any diy tutorial somewhere to enable my shure sm 58 on gh2 ? I do have a Behringer Eurorack UB 802 mixer. But that will be a separate unit requiring a power source. It is not a portable solution for a one man shoot. Can you suggest some alternative ? I am not very keen on investing more at present.

  • bunuelll, I can't find specs for the Sony ECM-NV1. The Shure SM58 is a dynamic mic, which means you will need a transformer or a DC blocking capacitor to connect it directly to the GH2.

  • @ Stonebat

    Could you explain a bit more about "it works"? What kind of sensitivity/audio quality are you receiving from this combo? I am not surprised that you would get some audio trickling thru but I would be surprised if that sensitivity wouldn't drop off significantly since this is a phantom powered mic w/o phantom power.

    Really curious - thanks!

  • My MKE 400 is a very quiet mic--maybe there is an impedance mismatch or some other reason for the hiss.

  • I have the Sony ECM-NV1 microphone from my pd170 which needs 48vphantom power. I also have the Shure SM58. Can I use any of these on my Gh2 ? I ordered this cable (xlr female with 2.5mm male stereo plug.) http://www.kvconnection.com/product-p/km-x172-2310.htm. I thought of using my Sony mic or the Sm58.Both seem to be unsuitable. Any suggestions in using any of these on my Gh2 ?

  • As far as I understand there is no AGC (maybe in iA?) but there is manual settings and quiet a good limiter that does not really that slow pumping effect of bad limiters, but prevents from distortion cause of saturation in a more intelligent way

  • I've never noticed AGC on the GH2.

  • Is this worth it if you have to set the GH2 mic level to 4? Are you getting a lot of AGC?

  • The company doesn't know if that cable is going to work or not. What you need to know is how it's wired. But really, it's not that hard to rewire the cable yourself. It's just a bit of soldering.

    gameb, the 2.5-mm angled cable I linked to previously works fine. Is that not what you're looking for? It's easier to put an XLR connector on a 2.5-mm cable than the other way around.

  • I asked the company, and they replied me that it wouldn't work.

  • Anybody found a decent 2.5mm stereo angled plug? I tried several ones, some don't even fit due to their strange form, others don't make a 100% reliable contact when sometimes they are spinning due to cable movement - the only good one I found is "golden" but not angled. Anybody tried out this one? http://www.theaudioguru.com/products/2.5MM-MALE-RIGHT-ANGLE-STEREO-PLUG.html

  • @stonebat Why do you say its not designed for it, it looks good! Just change the 3.5 to a 2.5mm plug. It sells here: http://shop.vuetec.de/BeachTek-RC35-Adapter-3-5-mm-Klinke-zu-XLR_detail_1456.html

  • Never mind about it. The RC35 isn't designed for the task.

  • BeachTek RC35 cable seems perfect for the setup.

    http://www.beachtek.com/products/accessories/rc35/

    But nowhere selling it.

  • zcream, with my shock mount config the mic is out of the camera's view with the Lumix 20-mm lens. I don't have any wider pancakes to test, but you'll note in my video that I show a few different ways of mounting the shock mount. The taller ways of mounting it should keep the mic out of the view of almost any lens.

  • Let me think about the sticking part, too.

    @stonebat Well, silly me. You can of course suspend the mic further forwards, suspending the XLR plug itself (although the XLR plug is just a tad loose, so I will have to see if it picks up any sound). That way, you have much more clearance. There's still a little bit bumping possible, but much less! It would be even better if the cable went upwards. Here are some pics:

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  • @John_Farragut Cool. Thanks man!!! Let me think about the sticking part, too.