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85mm best lens to for film making?
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  • DrDaveDrDave

    I happen to like the Olly 40-150 mft msc for video. I bought mine for $150 on one of those sales--didn't even realize it was msc. Razor sharp around 70mm, with one blur unit corner to corner. MSC drive for fast, smooth, silent video focusing. It does not have the super shallow DOF, but the "look" of the video is very good. Fast autofocus.

  • soundgh2soundgh2

    @ Vitaliy_Kiselev

    agreed on the Samyang V Zeiss - had the luxury and boredom of buying the 35 and 85 (I sit in a box every day lol) of each and, well not reading any reviews - instantly and in the gut apparent that the Zeiss is bloomin sexy - no charts no pixels just phwoor factor - no idea if it grades well etc but one on and one lens off - wow Zeiss - ZF and thanks to a chum for a Contax 85 1.4 MMJ (which for me was even sexier than the Zf - fook knows why) I stare at pictures and make things louder and quieter ever day - so certainly not scientific, but the Zeiss seemed more "sexy times" and noticeably sit up and go ooh. My very well paid and happy looking grader chum concurred after letting him look at the output and its ability to be played with - he was most pleasantly surprised at the DW footage forced, ahem, presented to him. Funnily he loved the Contax 85 > Zf too same scene - hey its only telly :)

  • DrDaveDrDave

    If you are going to spend anything over $400 then wait for the Olympus. I personally like my ancient Nikkor 85/2, but I'm pretty sure the Samyang/Vivitar whatever is just as sharp and has an F 1.4 stop. One thing to consider is the size and weight. Both the Nikkor and Rokkors are small and compact. If I didn't have the Nikkor/Rokkor I would get the Samyang, and since I can wait, I will wait for the Olympus. There is of course the Leica 75/1,4, but it is overpriced. 75mm is a nice size.

  • carlesmbcarlesmb

    Someone buys a Kipon adapter for EOS Canon lens and tested the Samyang 85 mm? I can't see the difference between the 100E one and the cheaper.

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Kipon-Build-in-Aperture-Canon-EOS-EF-Lens-to-Micro-M-4-3-M4-3-M43-mount-Adapter-/360470923416?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item53edbdc898#payId

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Kipon-Canon-EOS-EF-EF-S-lens-to-Micro-M-4-3-M43-Adapter-G1-G3-EP3-EP2-EP1-GX1-/150849365164?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item231f52a4ac

    Thks in advance.

  • last_SHIFTlast_SHIFT

    I kind of like the Voigtlander's for DSLR 20/2.5, 40/2, 58/1.4 - there supposed to be a 75/1.8 FF lens(I know it's not 85 but close) for Canon/Nikon/Pentax but was announced over a year ago and still not available.

  • itimjimitimjim

    Samyang 85 will be best on a follow focus due to its construction size. Breaths a little though, but still probably the best 85 with cine credentials.

  • RerbregRerbreg

    I can upload files from Nikkor 85 1.4 Af D, this is a very high quality lens (optical) , but I did not like the build quality, Zeiss will be better. But what a Zeiss optical quality is not clear, if someone can do tests a Zeiss 85 ?

  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

    Skip the Samyang, get a Nikkor f2 85 or Zeiss 85/1.4

    Can you, please write any reason?

  • sicovdplassicovdplas

    Skip the Samyang, get a Nikkor f2 85 or Zeiss 85/1.4

  • JspatzJspatz

    The only one I would worry about is the 14mm, if you are at all concerned about distortion.

  • kazuokazuo

    Makes me want to grab the entire Samyang collection. Carl Zeiss, eat yr heart out!

  • JspatzJspatz

    I tested the 35, 85 samyangs and a zeiss 18 against a number of the best Nikkors, on a d800e and all 3 beat the Nikkors by a very small amount in resolution. Corners were especially impressive but that is not a concern on an m43 camera.

  • kazuokazuo

    @stonebat

    Recently picked up two Angenieux lenses, 35-70mm, and the 45-90mm. Am in the lens hoarding mood again, but this time of a decidedly more vintage year. Anyway, took a detour and tried something different today - I picked up the Samyang 85mm Nikon mount, and wow, was blown away by the optic similarity between Korean technology, and French flare. Like the Angenieuxs, the Samyang 85mm renders images that are detailed, sharp, yet not as contrasty as Zeiss. Makes me want to go chk out the 35mm f1.4 as well!!!!

  • stoneystoney

    Samyang 85.4. It's a modern MF lens with good coating for less CA and haze.

  • theteddytheteddy

    Just got a Canon FD 85mm 1.8, my first bit of "old" glass and its great. Sharp and really shallow DOF. Saw a review comparing the new Samyang to this lens and the Samyang was better, but for a 25 year old lens thats a low price and has great quality I'm really happy with it. It's also built like a tank !

  • mrbillmrbill

    There's a lot to be said for shooting with the same make of lens - it's less about resolution and more about matching contrast and colour rendition, to my mind. I've got 28mm, 50mm and 85mm contax zeiss glass, which work beautifully on a gh2. You seem to have a lot of Olympus glass, so I'd look at something by them if you want an 85mm. My 02.

  • kodakmomentkodakmoment

    Since the GH2s video mode doesn't need top resolution I would be most concerned with sharpness and CAs at large apertures. I have filmed both with a Minolta MD 2.0/85 and a Leitz Summilux-R 1.4/80. The Minolta only shows very slight softness as f2, but now CAs. The Leica beats the Minolta at f2 where it is tack sharp. Opened another half stop it gets softer and at 1.4 it is noticeably soft and shows CAs, but much better than the Voigtlaender Nokton 25 fully opened. The Leica R lenses are supposed to be declickable, on the Minoltas it might depend on the lens. Personally I would test the Samyang, if I was going with a Nikon mount lens set. I saw one photo comparison on the net where it looked as good as the Leica. Personally I don't because I also use m43 lenses and I get confused when the focus ring does not rotate the same way on all my lenses. I am planning a shoot out of all my m43, Leitz and Minolta lenses soon, I will post the results.

  • azza_actazza_act

    @kupchenpo

    Wow... Nice.

  • kavadnikavadni

    I have 85mm Jupiter 9, it's f2 .. it has character .. mine is m42

  • kupchenpokupchenpo

    @azza_act

    The 12mm oly works fine with the right follow focus. Here is my setup:

  • itimjimitimjim

    Hi @alcomposer yes, it's arriving this week. I'm now looking at the 11-16 and 20-35 too :-)

  • AlexAlex

    my lens for that range is the Leitz Canada 90mm f/2 Summicron-R. The Leica R mount can also be adapted to Canon EF. The only down side of this lens is that it has a Leica series 7 filter mount.

    http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-wiki.en/index.php/90mm_f/2_Summicron-R

    I have also the Canon FD 85mm 1.2. It was more expensive then the Leitz and the Canon's IQ does not come close. The 1.2 is very "dreamy" (to be polite). The f2 of the Leitz is very usable.

    The Samyang 85mm did not exist when I made the purchase ...

    I would also checkout Pentax SMC 1.8 85mm and Olympus OM Zuiko 85mm f2.

  • thepalaliasthepalalias

    Just wanted to chime in that normally the manufacturers really went the extra mile on their 85 mm f/1.2 vs the 1.4 or 1.8 models.

    You probably are not going EF (aperture control and all) but if you do, keep in mind that the CA shooting wide open appears to be worse on revision II than revision I on that lens (though I think it is better stopped down than the earlier revision).

    You can see what I mean at The-Digital-Picture.com

    I would make notes on other 85mm lenses if I weren`t seriously considering picking one up myself and worrying about losing eBay auctions. ;)

  • alcomposeralcomposer

    @itimjim do you have a 28-80 when you say 'investigating'?

    I have one and can say that its a fantastic lens! (Parfocal)

  • itimjimitimjim

    I've found 85mm on mFT about as long as I would regularly like to go. 170mm equivalent is nice for tight portraiture, but it really needs to be on sticks. I personally use the Canon FDn 85/2, and my copy is good for FF. The rest of my FDn's are quite stiff and don't FF that well.

    I'm also investigating the Tokina 28-80/2.8 AT-X PRO (Nikon version) too. It focuses (and zooms) completely internally, which makes it a good choice for matte box usage. The focus ring looks really smooth too.

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