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D-Focus GH2 Cage
  • New cage from D-Focus coming in about a month from now. 300$-ish.

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  • @plasticated Yes I have a follow focus fitted to my rig and was still having some issues with lens wobble but this was no longer caused by camera body movement. Normally the longer the lens, the more obvious the wobble. But it also depends on the tolerances within the lens.

    When I ordered the GH2 D-Cage from Jag35 I also ordered the D-Support which is a lens stabilizer. It was $50 and to be frank there's hardly anything to it ($5 worth of parts?) but my Rokinon (Samyang) 85mm F1.4 is now rock solid when I rack focus.

    http://dfocussystem.com/dsupport.php

    The fact that Rokinon focuses internally so the front of the lens doesn't extend or rotate is a major plus compared to many non-cinema camera lens. This is critical in order to be able to attach the D-Support to the very front of the lens where it is most effective. If the lens changes length or rotates while focusing then the D-Support can't be used at the front and mounting it closer to the camera body means it won't be as effective in reducing movement.

    The other bonus with the Rokinon 85mm is it has almost no perceivable focus breathing and the focus ring rotates about 320 degrees which is quite a wide range. (nice for focusing)

    As far as I'm aware both the Rokinon 35mm and 24 lenses also focus internally. That alone almost makes them worth the price of admission as it means they can be well and truly tied down with something like the D-Support or similar. The only real down side is that the 35mm is suppose to focus breath quite a bit.

    Once you lock down the GH2's body in a cage ideally the lens adapter should also be fixed to the rig if possible to eliminate any movement. The reality is most non-cinema lenses are likely to have some kind of movement issues when rack focusing. So I guess the real answer is the cage alone will not totally cure movement. You just have to determine in which areas you have some movement and work out the best method of eliminating it while still maintaining focus/zoom control over the lens.

  • @pundit do you have a follow focus on your rig? Do you still get that awful "wobble" when racking focus with the camera installed in the cage?

  • @rockroadpix "Good Lord, I loathe "unboxing" vids!

    He he! I thought the topic of unboxing videos deserves its own thread so I posted something in the 'Off Topic' section. Take a look and you may get a laugh! ;>)

    Here... http://www.personal-view.com/talks/discussion/3893/lets-end-unboxing-videos#Item_1

  • Good Lord, I loathe "unboxing" vids!

  • Mine arrived two days ago. No complaints so far. Camera seems well locked down. Accessibility to the camera is good. Will post some pics soon. The main issue now is to get rid of any movement in the lens and adapter.

  • Someone's already got their hands on one :) Looks good and conforming to the GH2's body shape. Only question is if it holds stable as I remember reading something finicky about how it is held. Maybe they have improved it since NAB 2012?

  • @mrbill it looks very large. I liked the low profile of the Rewo cage as it conformed to the shape of the GH2, rather than creating cube shape like the others. It was also a single piece of metal.

    It seems the options are limited, especially as the D|Focus cage is now showing as out of stock.

    I'm serious about purchasing a second hand Rewo so if anyone has a used one I'll be willing to pay full retail price for it.

  • @platicated - I'd check out the gini cage as well. Very happy with mine

  • @peaceonearth thanks for letting me know. That's a real shame, and very frustrating! I had my heart set on one. Looks like i'll have to go with a D|Cage instead. Shame as I much preferred the design of the Rewo :(

    Does anyone have one they want to sell?

  • Here's something that may help.

    Though another plate on the top like the bottom plate bolted directly to the cage may work pretty well.

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  • The QR plate mounting will benefit if it was first attached to a custom intermediate plate bolted to the bottom of the cage via those 4 threaded holes (see second picture) to increase the contact area. Although an access hole (for a screwdriver/allen wrench) would be required to remove the camera from the cage otherwise the QR mount plate would require removal first. Not so good.

    As stability is one of the main reasons for a cage I would probably not fit a QR directly between the cage and the rig as it only allows for another point of movement.

    My current setup allows the camera to be removed from the rest of the rig using a QR and this is most likely also contributing to some of the camera movement when operating the follow focus. So I plan to bolt the cage to the rig once I check out any battery/power access issues.

  • @pundit , i think Gini GH2 cage is made much better ...

  • Do not like their bottom part, as if you mount it directly on QR plate contact space will be quite small due to cutouts.

    Also no customized rods mount makes battery hole not very useful.

  • 'D-Cage' from D-Focus $329 + shipping.

    It looks good as it is totally customized for the GH2 (see photos)

    The anti-rotation pins and top cold shoe mount should keep things tight and least as far as the body itself is concerned. With a well attached rig/tripod mount plate it should be a solid setup. image

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  • @plasticated ReWo guys are very likable but their focus is not on the business with ReWo products. As @Vitaliy_Kiselev mentioned they are mostly busy with shooting and directing. I bought a cage months ago and they sent me the wrong plate for hot shoe mount (from 7D which is slightly different) I am in personal contact with one of these guys and it was promised several times to be sent "today" but I am still waiting for it. Regarding GH2 cages I was told that one of their main supplier is out of business due to insolvency and all CAD tools they paid in advance are lost. There will be no more ReWo GH2 cages.

  • @plasticated

    They are just pros, making this amazing cage, they do not live selling it. And it is really above all else that I know.

    Most probably they are just busy with something.

  • Someone mentioned Rewo production problems. Is there a known reason why the Rewo GH2 Cage isn't currently available? I have emailed and tweeted them asking when it will be back and available for purchase and heard nothing back. Quite annoying.

  • Knobs/lumps. Saw one in a photo, missed that part in the video. Thanks. that's exactly what I was wondering. Anyone who thinks they'll keep it from rotating with a 1/4 thread and the hotshot is a fool.

  • @B3Guy .. watch the videos .. he details held by 1/4 thread in base, by flash shoe at top, and there are two knobs/lumps which also prevent rotation.

  • Probably a silly question, but does the GH2 stay secure and "square" (no rotation) within the cage? It wouldn't matter if you could get the cage parallel to the rails if the GH2 doesn't stay "squared" within the cage. I'm assuming they designed it to fit and hold the camera from rotating, but I'd just like some confirmation.

  • I'm in .. @vitaliy .. I feel this might be worth a special deal if you were able to arrange, considering the number of GH2 users :) .. pretty please have a go

  • Would you say the fittings are there to have two of these railblocks mounted underneath the cage? Thanks.

  • Funny that you raise this... the cage did swivel around a bit on top of my quick-release plate. It was a little annoying. Soluble though. I had the cage mounted on to my Lanparte base and all the other crap you see mounted to the top of the cage. The lanparte base does have a little spring loaded pin going up into a second hole on the cage, but with all that torque on it (top handle, lights, etc.) sometimes the little spring loaded pin would slip out of hte whole. Very viable solution is just using a second 1/4-20 captive screw in the slot in the quick-release plate. I didn't have a screw like that with me, but it would solve the problem since the cage has sumerous threaded holes in the bottom.

    The only JAG35 railblocks I used in that setup were a 2-rod railblock on top of the cage to use for the top handle, and one single railblock to noga arm to hold the sound rig. Those worked fine. The 2-rod railblock swiveled a bit on me because it's one screw that both tightens the railblock to the cage and bites down on the rods to keep them from slipping. Just one screw and all that torque from the carry handle, not going to work in the long term. Would need two of those railblocks in a row to give me two screws into the cage or else need a different railblock.

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  • For me this is a no-go until they get the rail blocks sorted. Friction isn't enough to prevent rotation, so this setup would be crippled if you wanted to use it on rails.

    The price point sounds good, but after you add on the price for the rail blocks, I don't think this is going to be any more affordable than some of the other professional solutions out there (rewo).

  • @airboxlights - did the jag35 railblocks work ok with the cage during your road test? I like their other stuff very much.