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  • @5thwall haha.. that is an option.
    @mrbill i think that the guy who did that job for me just had them lying around, but i'll double check that...

  • @redpaw - do you have a link for the xtra dc output sockets on the side of your v-mount? Thanks very much.

  • @redpaw depending on size and need to remove, I just use velcro and/or zipties for items that don't have standard mounting screws... or just stuff that I don't want to spend the time figure out "how do I mount this friggin' thing?" ;-)

  • @5thwall well, i didnt. a friend of mine did it for me. from what i understand they are taken from a 14.4V d-tap. 14.4V doesnt need anything, and to get 9V out of those 14 he used this: www.ebay.ie/itm/LM2596-DC-DC-Step-Down-CC-CV-Adjustable-Power-Supply-Module-Output-DC-1-5V-35V-/230723853693?pt=UK_BOI_Electrical_Components_Supplies_ET&hash=item35b8369d7d&fb_source=message i'd say its pretty light. the thing is it's not a 'proper' setup... i just sticked h4n and the lights so i could make them work of 1 v-lock battery. didnt have a time to work out a proper setup yet, especially that i'd need to mount 2 more wireless receivers for the microphones as well on it... thinking about some cage or something...

  • @redpaw nice setup. look forward to seeing how it goes. how did you add the 9v and 14.4v? how heavy is it with the battery?

  • @5thwall dont have 2.5mm -> 3.5mm cable at the moment, so cannot have h4n connected to gh2... will try to find one tomorrow in some shop or order it online, so should have it next week. in the meantime - here's few photos - 1 v-lock powering gh2 (9V), zoom h4n (5V) and 2x z96 leds (14.4V or/and 12V - running on both). no problems at all. as you can see from the photo - the original outputs are 5V / 7.2V / 12V (powered on / off with a switch) and d-tap 14.4V. And i've got 2 more added - 9V and another 14.4V with a regular 3.5mm socket....

    here's the link to one of those on ebay: http://www.ebay.com/itm/DSLR-BP-battery-Power-supply-V-mount-/270897251252?pt=US_Camera_Camcorder_Accessory_Bundles&hash=item3f12bc03b4

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  • @redpaw. i suppose they are better from a technical standpoint. but on my last shoot, i ran directly from zoom to gh2 and as far as i could tell there was no difference. now, i did a lot of tests beforehand, between zoom and gh2 using -20db tone to see what levels were best and also did comparison tests using the mic running through zoom to get best levels. to my ear and using my speakers, both sounded the same. (btw, those levels are 53 for the output and 65-70 for the mic input using the Rode VideoMic, depending on distance to subject.) also, i found that the quality of the audio increased going through the zoom rather than directly into the camera from the mic.

    for my purposes (web), the sound was actually quite amazing. since I'm a one-man-band, i find that having some AGC in camera isn't necessarily a bad thing. it can help smooth out some of the bumps. but in the case of my last shoot, AGC didn't kick in since i had the levels dialed in properly on the zoom.

    but ultimately, my reason for wanting to run audio into the camera is ease-of-use. it's nice to have the zoom as backup (or primary). but so easy to just start editing, as i had about 4 hrs of footage to start logging and exporting for the producer to watch.

  • @5thwall will take a few photos later on or tomorrow, have to go now. got the zoom just recently and didnt get a change to use it in real life yet tho. just out of curiosity - what would be the advantage of running audio from h4n to gh2? wont the files directly from h4n be better quality then from gh2?

  • @redpaw do you have pics of your battery setup? Have you tried running h4n and GH2 at the same time (while running audio from h4n to GH2 through a stereo cable)? As I've mentioned in previous posts, my setup has a ground loop issue. I'm starting to look for another solution. Thanks!

  • @Meierhans no prob. it also can power led light, zoom h4n with its 5V output (a suitable cable is even included) at the same time. very handy just to watch one battery rather then 3 different ones :) especially that 1 or 2 v-lock bat is usually enough for the whole day anyway

  • @redpaw Thank you very much! This was really the missing part in our rig!

  • Will do @disneytoy. It'll be a good two weeks though coming from HK.

  • itimjim please report back when you get your battery. I want to buy the same. I also need 12v for a slider motor, and the 5v for an Arduino timelapse engine.

  • I've just bought one of those cheap CCTV Li-On batteries off eBay for about £27 from Hong Kong. Supplies 5v, 9v and 12v, which is all I need. This should be easier to attach to the rig than my XPAL18000 which is now going to power a 12v field monitor.

  • @Meierhans sorry for the delay, but in the meantime i sold gh1 and bought gh2 and gave the power plate to be upgraded to give 8.4V output to power gh2. just got it few days ago - so, the first thing was that after powering on the camera it shows - this battery type cannot be used error (or something similar) - and the output was exactly 8.4V. But increasing it to 9V worked wonders and its working like a charm now. this is what he used for regulating the voltage (its got an adjustable power output so there's not a problem with setting up 8.4V, 9V, 9.2V or 7.2V...etc for gh1, gh2, canons...) http://www.ebay.ie/itm/LM2596-DC-DC-Step-Down-CC-CV-Adjustable-Power-Supply-Module-Output-DC-1-5V-35V-/230723853693?pt=UK_BOI_Electrical_Components_Supplies_ET&hash=item35b8369d7d&fb_source=message

  • @SisterCities Here are the pics of ol' Locutus powered by the Jag Battery. I'll keep this short since I've pretty much stated everything I know about the battery. If you have any questions about the rig, message me directly. Happy to share what I've learned.

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  • @5thwall That is a bummer. Looking forward to seeing the Franken-rig.

  • Good closing line. Full circle, brilliant!

  • Resistance is futile!

    PS: I just couldn´t resist...

  • @SisterCities Not looking good for having Jag fix the ground loop issue. I'm pretty bummed about that. Still a great battery solution for a shoulder rig, but the whole point of the battery is that you can power multiple items, so I must say that this taints my original glowing review. They mentioned getting a cable from Pink Noise Systems (assuming they mean a ground loop isolator). I have another isolator that does a so-so job but doesn't fully fix the issue.

    Regarding my rig, I spent a lot of time researching separate parts and decided on a mix. It's pretty much a Franken-rig (my nick-name for it is Locutus, actually ;). I'll post some pics of it early next week when I'm back in the office. The H4N is mounted on the left side of the shoulder rig, near the front handle. Easy access for hitting record.

  • @5thwall That's excellent; hope you can sort the ground loop issue though. Are you mounting the H4N on top of the battery? Which rig are you using? Curious to see how much space it takes up. Thanks for the update ++

  • @Alfi666 thank you, I have ordered two DC-DC converters, and one battery level indicator, as soon as i get them will make one, also a DIY tutorial video ... The benefit is: I use same batteries for Z-96 lights and Lillput monitor :-)

  • @feha No, they don't get hot, maybe a bit warm - not more than a battery goes warm when it's being used. However, I can't say about reliability... haven't used it for long enough to be able to say...

    I find it still better than using an aftermarket battery, which fails on you anytime, because you don't have battery meter and therefore no idea how much juice it still has.

  • @Alfi666

    great, i do have some Sony battery adapters, will make it same route, thank you. Also can you confirm, how reliable is this DC-DC converter, does it get hot ?

  • @feha

    Sorry, what do you mean by fixing it? .. I have used a DC-DC step-up converter to have 9V from 7.2V Sony battery. Then it is just connected to DC coupler... thats all ;)