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  • Could we sort the "Specific Plot Elements" and "Generic Conceptual" ones onto separate pages, please? this will make things clearer which is which, as well as make my job of putting together the poll much easier.
  • >It's this one: http://www.personal-view.com/our_movies/movie_01:01general:08_elements_and_main_concepts

    Click Older revisions (I see that they are saved), after this select necessary revision, click it, set to Edit and Save.
  • @Vitaliy_Kiselev

    It's this one: http://www.personal-view.com/our_movies/movie_01:01general:08_elements_and_main_concepts
    But I'm not sure if we need it anymore because @Elenion have already made the necessary changes to his part in the new page.
    Well, now that I think about it, maybe other authors made changes in the original page as well so it might come in handy after all if we can still rescue it.
    In any case, thanks a lot Vitaliy!
  • @atticusd

    Tell me the exact page that you need.
    May be it is still present in files.
  • @Elenion
    Ok, great then. Sorry again and thanks for your understanding! Everything looks ok now.

    @Vitaliy_Kiselev
    Thanks for the suggestion Vitaliy but the thing is that I've already deleted the original page after creating the new one. If I'm not mistaken, the edit history of the original page went to motherfucking hell when I deleted it. What can I say? I'm a dumb motherfucker. ;-)
  • @atticusd

    Are you sure that you don't have edit history?
  • Ahah no need for blowjobs man, and by the way we live too far! I corrected the concept again (and made a backup), look if it can go. Thank you!
  • @all
    Thanks for the kind words guys!!!

    @Elenion
    I feel like a fucking asshole man. I worked with an outdated offline copy not realizing that changes had been made to the online page. So I inadvertently destroyed your updates. I’m really really sorry man. I also deleted the original page because I thought that by not leaving orphan pages lying around everything would be tidier. But what I was really doing was destroying the only existing backup. Sorry again. How can I make it up to you?

    Also if anyone else has seen his work altered by my careless actions please tell me how I can make it up to you. I’m willing to do almost anything. But blowjobs are out of the question. ;-)
  • @atticusd
    great job. just updated mine.
  • @RRRR that is EXACTLY why I wanted to only deal with really general stuffs right now, it facilitates more ideas.

    EDIT: @atticusd

    Bravo! hit the nail on the head. I'll let it sit until the weekend in case authors want to make any small tweaks, then I will create a poll and go live with it. We can leave it up for a few days. Is everyone okay with me PM'ing the link to the quiz to only authors and others on the forum (i.e. the"assets" page, etc.)?

    Way to keep things on schedule, everybody!
  • Cool! This way of describing things gave me another idea loosely based on the concepts of Stowaway & Patient Zero..

    If I have the time, I'll try to formulate it for the up-coming vote!
  • @atticusd
    You put back the old version of elements and storyline of my concept that i modified. The corrected version of it was in the previous page (that i can't find now).
  • Ok, guys. You can find the preliminary Elements page here: http://www.personal-view.com/our_movies/movie_01:01general:08_specific_plot_elements_and_generic_conceptual_ones It's still a bit rough (too simplistic in some cases not generic enough in others...). In any case, every author can as of now change everything they think it's not accurate, add missing elements, whatever... In some cases I left the Main Concepts lists alone and just changed the tittle to Generic Conceptual Elements. If you feel that a more concise approach is needed just tell me so and I'll do my best to make everything tighter.

    For now, every author should take a look at least at the Elements of his story and tell me to make the necessary changes or if he feels like it, make them himself. This goes for: @thepalalias, @andres, @lolo, @RRRR, @Imaginate, @L1N3ARX, @B3Guy, @Reckless, @Elenion, @RRRR, @Aksel

    Thanks!!!
  • perhaps we could make a second poll but only with the top five rated storylines (voted on next week´s poll) and ask the authors to improve it accordingly to the elements and concepts voted (on next week´s poll), but they should only have time until january 15 (i´m just suggesting), the day that the second voting should take place (according to the developed gantt chartt, the draft script (or at least a treatment) must be ready by mid/end february,
  • @B3Guy
    i thought the point was to give the writer(s), more variables to play when he/she develop the chosen storyline into a script

    now that i understand what was on your mind, i don´t know, i think that will slow the entire process,
    i still think we should vote the storylines next week, along with the elements and concepts to keep the ball rolling

    sorry i misunderstood you
  • I was thinking we would give the writers of stories a chance to integrate and adjust for the "liked" elements before we vote on stories. Otherwise, what is the point of voting just on elements?
  • @B3Guy
    Ok that makes sense having just two categories.

    Having a poll for just elements is good, but why not have a separate vote for stories that are actually a little more fleshed out to see which kinds of stories people are leaning towards?

    What way the december vote tells us what kind of elements people like and what kinds of stories people like.

  • Ok, no offene to everyone, but we've got our categories all fricked up. There are TWO ONLY, one for GENERIC BITS, LITTLE PARTS, ELEMENTS.

    The other is for MAIN IDEAS, PLOTS, STORIES.

    I think we completely leave main ideas alone for now and only vote on GENERICS.
  • @b3guy

    when you say "the fourth page for the [general concepts] ranked from one to ten, "

    by [general concepts] do you mean [main concepts] that you defined here.. (Main Concepts are story LINES, plots, overarching guidelines that are not universally compatible with other story lines or plots. For example, meshing mine with the “occupy Wallstreet” one would be very difficult if not impossible. We will not I think deal with these until AFTER we have surveyed on the “elements”.)?

    I get what [elements] are but a little unsure on how to list GENERAL ELEMENTS for my stories, and how voting on specific plot points is going to create a story?
  • @b3guy Would a Logline also be a storyline?

    A logline conveys the dramatic story of a screenplay in the most abbreviated manner possible. It presents the major throughline of the dramatic narrative without character intricacies and sub-plots. It is the story boiled down to its base. A logline must present:

    who the story is about (protagonist(s))
    what he (they) strives for (goal)
    what stands in his (their) way (antagonistic force).
  • @elenion, yeap, i place that deadline a month a go, and that was the only deadline siuggested and supported, the ones interested in working together will expend that half hour on those five days availables to vote (december 20 to december 25)

    @b3guy as you probably are the one setting up the poll (on seamonkey (as you are the must experienced and i don´t think it would bother you right? :) ), because i tried the poll plugin that Vitaliy installed, but it doesn´t have the choice to introduce names as an answer, you can only choose from available options, so is more limited, still usable for less important polls though)... let me suggest what i think must be available (at the very least),

    the first page to introduce the username,
    the second page for each storyline ranked from one to ten,
    the third page for the elements ranked from one to ten,
    the fourth page for the general concepts ranked from one to ten,
  • I think that everyday is a busy day for someone. This is the first important vote, if the start is a delay.. well this project could have a short life.
    It takes like half a hour to vote, not a day nor to cancel a holiday. Maybe we should just vote and see who's in and who's out.
  • I'll have the page ready before the end of the week. Hopefully before the weekend. Life's a bit crazy these days!
  • @b3guy what is the deadline for all of the elements to be in?
  • @all

    we are very close to having stuff to vote on as @atticusd and I seem to now be more on the same page. perhaps @atticusd could give us an ETA for a revised "general concepts" list. (all we need is a list of them, that's it. then we poll.) I know the holidays are busy not for all but for many, so we may want to consider that and perhaps be open to extending this first poll on "general concepts" until early January (just a thought).

    Things seem generally to be still progressing, but I suspect this time if year has most of us pretty busy one way or another.

    Also, anyone that feels like they have a good handle on what atticusd and I mean by the term "general concept", please feel free to put in a few minutes on the wiki sorting out the "Elements" page. any little bit of help very much appreciated. As soon as we get this page together, I may do one last VERY short call for additional "general concepts" before we jump into polling.