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Telegram userbase is growing up fast last weeks
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  • How should this be understood?

    People who executed orders of elite with too much enthusiasm had been fired :-)

    We have elite generally understanding that they need informational independence, as they understand how market works. But we also have part of elite who just want to spread the legs and provide the hole, had been such for hundreds of years.

    From one of my recent posts:

    When capital is placed at the forefront of social organization, money begins to determine everything. Therefore, for capital, the ideal regime for organizing society will be such when everything (absolutely everything) is turned into a market. Including politics.

    If politics is arranged like a market - with bargaining, free competition, professional political products and services (politicians, political strategists, mass media, PR, elections, etc.) - then in such a market the one who is able to pay the most wins. That is, the one who can buy specialists, technologies and form the necessary public opinion. That is, capital.

    In such a mode of operation, the real, irreplaceable dictator in the form of specific persons or groups is always in the shadows. And in the arena of the political circus, professional political clowns are constantly changing, carrying out orders behind the scenes. Wasted and discredited actors are periodically thrown into the trash and replaced by new, even more fun characters. The electorate is happy. Capital as well.

    Therefore, Freedom'n'Democracy ™ as the largest and most powerful capital, in an ultimatum order requires all other countries to strictly adhere to democratic procedures. In this case, he can freely enter any country, establish (buy) the required political regime and freely dictate his will. And all this is imperceptible, without unnecessary noise, under the guise of a democratic expression of the will of the people.

    Those who refuse to turn their political system into a democratic market must be beaten and forced to freedom. To do this, Freedom'n'Democracy ™ has military bases around the world and military expenditures that exceed those of all other countries combined.

    Why can't everyone in the world hold "fair elections" and be more democratic than the Pope?

    If a country wants to pursue an independent policy, it simply cannot afford to host an open democratic market in which it cannot compete with the capitals of the world hegemon.

    In this case, there are only two outputs:

    1. Give up independence. Completely lie under the fincap and resignedly accept all imposed decisions, counting on the mercy of the new owner.
    2. Abandon Democracy ™. Establish a political dictatorship with an irreplaceable political elite, covering all this with imitation of free elections.

    This is why all countries who do not lick ass of leading capitalist countries are declared as bad and totalitarian. And leading countries always push them to change their choice and select option number one.

    As for Signal

    Signal still seems to be the smallest evil to me

    It has horrible desktop client, code quality is bad, usability is subpar if you compare it all to Telegram.

    Also one thing I do not understand is why all tech guys constantly refer to badly made niche products (that have some one or two internal functions made right) as solutions for masses.

    For now Telegram is best quality chat client for desktop and tablets, and has best code quality with developers being managed proper way and result way better than all major chat clients.

  • We have interests of freedom of speech and democracy, we need to catch the fallen flag and carry it with dignity. Lot of laughs here :-)

    Nice picture, yet I believe flag already to way muddy to be carried, will drop dirt on your head. Guess we will need a new one.

    But it reality, part of our elite blocked telegram while another part used it. Ended up in silent unblocking and most active guys fired.

    How should this be understood? Active in what? tlgrm dev??

    Signal still seems to be the smallest evil to me, while still beeing useable for the masses, but I wonder why no one mentions XMPP and Matrix, two decentralized ways for chat (and voice comm), that do not require to you to reveal your mobile phone number. (Which is an important detail, as its much more about meta than content today...) OTR is around since ages and OMEMO is also well proven.

    Proto: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OMEMO

    Android: https://conversations.im/ Android (free): https://f-droid.org/en/packages/eu.siacs.conversations/

    Win/Linux: https://gajim.org/download/

    Last but not least Mumble is a (pretty) secure way for group voice comm, its not e2e (which is hard to do low latency on more than 2 parties anyways) but can be hosted by yourself, and thus technically allows for secure crypto. As long as you can trust the server. Afaik.... so If I am wrong, please teach me better.

    Mumble Crypto: https://security.stackexchange.com/questions/58568/is-mumble-encryption-end-to-end

    Server/Clients: https://www.mumble.info/

    I am quite aware of the hurdles, that will stop 99% of the people trying to join this kind of stuff.. yet, I would love to meet the other % in there.

    ;-)

  • Turkish President Tayyip Erdogan has registered in Telegram and BIP messengers, the presidential administration said.

    "Our president @RTErdogan is now in BIP and Telegram," the message says.

    The administration added that on Tuesday Erdogan also launched his own channel on Telegram.

    Very bad news for US.

  • Telegram surpassed 500 (https://t.me/durov/147) million active users.

    In the past 72 hours alone, more than 25 million new users from around the world joined Telegram.

  • @endotoxic

    no interest behind at all, not even the goverment! impressive aint?

    We have interests of freedom of speech and democracy, we need to catch the fallen flag and carry it with dignity.

    Lot of laughs here :-)

    But it reality, part of our elite blocked telegram while another part used it. Ended up in silent unblocking and most active guys fired.

  • lol, of course mordor has such a "selfless" people!!!! no interest behind at all, not even the goverment! impressive aint? Lets join in mass, so the can benefit...ehem!..coff coff.. ehmm..so they can help people with their kindness.

  • Which run the infrastructure of this closed-source messenger, that allows millions of people to upload large files and stream videos complety for free. Thanks god, there are such selfless people around in mordor..

  • @zcream

    Telegram has mostly Russian developers and Russian owner :-)

  • @MikeLinn which messenger? Signal is open source

  • @zcream

    Lets all download Telegram so we can listen to Trump.

    And let us thank patriotic US elites for forcing millions of US users into Mordor made messenger.

    Btw same guys still did not ban Tiktok despite orders.

  • Right, lets all download Telegram so we can listen to Trump.

  • The Telegram messenger became the second most downloaded app in the United States after Twitter permanently blocked the account of incumbent President Donald Trump, and Apple and Google removed the popular social network Parler from app stores. This was reported by The Daily Telegraph.