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  • Decide on a maximum time length for the film, remember that there could be a lot of people wanting to take part. We had around 26 people on the showreel; how many slots are you willing to give? Is it first come /first served basis?
    As soon as you simplify it, the process will become easier and the overall direction, theme, script, edit, etc... will be workable.
  • @Aksel Definitely a cool idea, but it feels almost like it deserves another project all of its own. :)

    I got the impression (and I might be way off base) that several people wanted to create something with an arc and form of direct continuity, as opposed to a thematic relationship.

    At the same time, a project like the one you described would be a great way to showcase the creativity and individuality of each director. Maybe it could be a festival/contest idea that people could work on after the current project?
  • @B3Guy I don't see any harm in developing the logistics before the script, because it can help the writer to work within the proper limitations. :)

    I think the most important thing is just to take the time to develop the script, rather than getting impatient if it takes a little while.

    Anyway, looking forward to your arrival in the L.A. area. If you're ever in the Pasadena/Eagle Rock area, feel free to drop me a line.
  • 2 ideas guys

    1- What about having just one script, and all the Directors around the world will shoot his or her version of the same script
    2- No script, just a word such as: Love, Hunger, Crisis, Happiness, Shit, Fear... etc .After we decide which topic we like, each Director will write his or her script and shoot it.
  • @jweeke yes, this touches on something that I was imagining in the back of my head (although in a more general sense drawing out of your particular idea). Each location will obviously have its own distinct characters, with the universal character and his/her purpose being the connection between the different groups. Perhaps they all have different pieces to a puzzle, or perhaps they all have the same problem.

    Considering the main character, voice-over would seem the best way to deal with their dialogue, unless of course someone is brilliant enough to create an engaging character without dialogue.

    I think before we get too far into the logistics, we need a script. May I suggest that we limit ourselves to development of a good story? I'm more than confident that if we get a good story together, the logistics of shooting, etc. will fall into place quite easily.

    I for one live in Minnesota, but I'l be in Los Angeles all of next school semester (January-May approx.), so if we get something going in that timeframe, I can chip in to a California branch if necessary.

    Another solution would be to look for a script that is already written that we can fit to this unorthodox approach to production.
  • @andres Some great ideas there, and don't worry - we will definitely have music. If I can't find time to handle it myself, some of my colleagues in the game scoring and film scoring industries owe me a few favors. :)

    Glad to see we've got a South American shooting opportunity already.
  • Idea and Concept:
    -The world as a small town.
    -Fact: internet people are 3.7 degrees apart.
    -People talk in their own language (lots of subtitles needed)
    -At the end all characters are connected between friends of friends.
    -All filming done the same season. (World Contrast)
    -There is no three act structure. something like Nine Lives structure http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0420015/
    -Filming must reflect documentary characteristics of the place but staying away of location cliches/city icons. Wide perspective of the world. Asia, South America, Africa, Oceania, Europe, North America, Anyone at Antartida or in a boat.

    Story:
    very important help needed
    I´m brainstorming here
    the simpler the better...
    maybe connected to something in the news and we see each different perspective/ point of view.

    Procedure:
    Organize the possible teams and locations.
    (We don´t need 3 cameras on a shot but an assistant, producer, actor, audio, car, is welcome.)
    Depending on how many teams there are available there will be a number of stories/locations.
    Example: If we have 20 teams we could make 4-6 minutes per story.
    Choose an idea or several and join them together and start developing the script, each director with their own location/actor/budged.
    Music could help a lot with the editing. That would be the hardest part, to finish it. Lot a editing time needed. Research needed.

    -------------------------
    Its to soon to talk about equipment first we need to see how many willing directors do we have and where are they so we could make working groups, This doesn't mean there could not be a one man project if you live in a place where there are no P-V members, I suppose each one has a personal working group.

    I could be a director or assist another one.
    Buenos Aires, Argentina.


  • Going off @B3GUY idea of global instability:

    Shit hits the fan. EU falls, total freeze on electric money, 2008 times 10 in a moment. We follow in realtime a dozen or so groups from around the world as they find out and figure out what to do.

    Maybe a three scene arc per location.
  • @stip but thats why i ask for a structure on the relevant(developed) ideas,

    please!!, :)


    if we later make a poll to decide the only idea that it will be made, we can start later to develop the proyect in a more concise way
  • I'm interested to see if this will work out but I've seen attempts like this several times in forums and it never worked.

    As I remember, finding a subject/script is the first hurdle projects like this are likely to fail already.
    Too many people, too many (even if good) ideas during brainstorming and everyone wants his/her ideas to be of relevance which will also be the case for any following assignments of tasks.

    Just listing what problems will occur, good luck though!
  • Yeah, Cloud funding. I just think a group owned 50gb dropbox or something like it at under a tenner for the month would be suffice to upload to you or whoever edits the collective clips. Something where we can all upload the original mts files to.
    Also I don't think you should restrict it to just Driftwood patches - it should be open to any hack patch.
  • so @driftwood what you are sayng is for

    WORKFLOW:
    1) Preproduction
    Paypal? for crowd funding? Aye for the ones that can donate some money?

    and also

    ASSETS LIST
    1)driftwood team on europe?
  • This is a f*cking brilliant idea. 'Aye' for one will gladly contribute to it. I will gladly paypal towards a group cloud server or global dropbox. We'd need a 50Gb cloud at least.
    I will offer some ideas to contribute to this over the next few days for sure.
    This could lead to something quite amazing. Count me in. :-)
  • @RRRR hahahahhahah sure, but perhaps a more generic one could be listed, instead of XXX mic model branded in XX city, someone can say directional mic on urban argentina or whatever
  • @thepalalias yeah, exactly..

    The assets list could be private between project participants only - some might not want to list all their belongings publicly. ;)
  • @RRRR I agree - several of them are script dependent. A script that explored "role" vs "identity" (which would be different than the ones suggested so far) could make good use of having different voices, with the similarity springing more from the situations instead.

    Sorry, that wasn't the clearest but basically, a different script idea could use a different unifying element.

    "If the script so requires" sounds fine.

    Also a more comprehensive "assets list" seems more useful than the less extensive one I proposed. I'm behind that.
  • Workflow:
    - Each director sends their original (ungraded) MTS files to the editor after they complete their shoot. This gives the editor more time to prepare the files, rather than having to wait for everyone to finish.
    - Sequence for the editing is specified in script. Each director specifies additional considerations for the editor when they submit their material. Each editor has a great deal of autonomy within each sequence.
    - In order to remain free, files can be transferred through DropBox (or someone else can suggest a better service, with the condition being "semi-permanent low-price storage with privacy"). DropBox starts at 2GB free.
    - After the editor finishes, he hands off the final cut to the color timer/grader.
    - At some point, somebody gets named the custodian of the project so that each person (the editor, the grader, etc.) knows who to go to if there are any problems or questions.
  • @lolo : maybe it was more a guideline than a "rule".. so perhaps there should be a section for that? All the technical issues to take into account..

    Maybe later we can make an "assets" list - where people can make notes of their location, equipment and such..? For script development purposes if necessary. It could also be helpful for project management.
  • @thepalalias I think you lift some very valid technical points - although some of them are also dependant on the script.
    For instance, voice over could be a good way to handle sound if the protagonist is supposed to be perceived as exactly the same troughout the film - yet that wouldn't make sense if the protagonist can be different, from section to section..
    From a conceptual point of view, it maybe should have the aber of "if the script so requires" for now? More like a possible guideline than a restriction.
  • Dang, that was fast @lolo. :)
  • That is if you didn't like my earlier one "19 Days and 1 Sheet" or some variation of "X Days and 1 Sheet". :)
  • "Reality Unveiled"
  • so @RRRR your idea of the particular/generic goes to "thepalalias proyect"?
    @thepalalias hahah please suggest another title hahahha
  • @RRRR Yes, I completely agree.

    Also, if we could get a list of directors (with their locations) as the script is still in progress, it could help to limit the script options appropriately.
  • If the script so requires it would make sense if directors choose from the available sections with location in mind. (it doesn't make sense for someone in the countryside to try and shoot a cityscape f.i. and vice versa)