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Nebula 4000 lite, mini gimbal for GH4, A7s
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  • sdewittsdewitt

    Seems (to my eye) that only the video from "FILM...SOUND...COLOR" has been able to avoid the vertical bobbing issue. I know from personal experience that this can be a tough issue to overcome with light cameras and stabilizers, whether analog or motorized (I had the same issue with the Merlin Steadicam).

  • sdewittsdewitt

    A couple more -

  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

    Tuning

  • grisnjamgrisnjam

  • sdewittsdewitt

    Some more videos of the nebula 4000 out in the wild. These are not mine, just ones I found and posed here -

  • ntsanntsan

    Another portable 3 Axis gimbal by the guy who made the original Funnygo for gorpo, it is still prototype stage though.

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  • chefchef

    @Manu4Vendetta it's not me…lol just found on vimeo… just thought the same it's kinda bouncy but if u read in vimeo description he says it was a quick balance just out of the box … havin trouble w yaw set up and could not dwnl the soft to get in the pid...

  • grisnjamgrisnjam

    Yeah it seems like these lightweight gimbals will always have trouble with up/down motion when walking since they are so light. What keeps the bigger ones from having this issue is their weight. It is a trade-off. One would need a 5 axis gimbal to avoid it all together:

    Also ... Looking at this page:

    http://filmpower.us/p/support

    There is some text on where to get the software near the bottom which leads here:

    http://chdntech.com/shop/chdnupload/

    Seems to be a zip for Mac/PC/Linux and then a Android app ...

  • Manu4VendettaManu4Vendetta

    Good test chef, but is evident the bounce, not so pronounced, but it shows.

  • chefchef

  • Manu4VendettaManu4Vendetta

    In that price range near, what about the Came-7000 ?, look interesting between US$850-980.

  • TronTron

    @grisnjam Have to agree... the inverted mode with an LX100 and smartphone would be great, especially for low shots. Looking forward to seeing some more reviews of this device.

  • grisnjamgrisnjam

    FYI, some folks has received and are reporting on this gimbal

    First impressions after a quick and dirty balance. I mounted the Gh4 with the 7-14. Got the tilt and roll decently balanced. I have not even adjusted the pan axis. took me about 10 minutes to get the roll and tilt at a good balance. So the 50 minute set up video should not scare you. Turned it on (without pan adjustments) and flew it around for a bit. Lets just say as an owner of the Dji Ronin and Defy G5 (I will be selling my G5 coming up for a great deal) I'm pretty darn impressed with the Nebula. It works and it works quite well. I think once I get the pan balance adjusted I might just be blown away with it's performance. Then getting in to the PID should put the device over the top. But my impressions with the unit 10 minutes out of the box are strongly positive!

  • grisnjamgrisnjam

    Got this from Goodluckbuy today after asking about my order:

    "hello sir the order has not been sent out yet we will urge to speedup the shipemnt ocen the gimbal back to stock we will send it out shortly regards THE GLB TEAM"

    @tommyboy

    The J69 looks interesting, had not really checked it out. I like that I could remove the handle and mount it on my Glide-cam HD-100. I think that would help with the up and down motion when walking.

    I did find the start/stop motion on the J69 to be too jerky though. I think I will give the Nebulas a week or so as I would like this for a Christmas time gig.

  • TommyboyTommyboy

    Hi @grisnjam

    What made you go for Nebula 4000 vs J69 Gimbal? I'm trying to decide for myself and your input is very appreciate it.

  • grisnjamgrisnjam

    I see three types of people interested in a product like this:

    1. Enthusiast video shooters.
    2. Professionals who really want a DJI Ronin or Bridycam but don't want to pay that much.
    3. Solo live event shooters who are looking foremost for a compact gimbal they can toss in a bag to replace sliders/steady cams.

    I think the setup on the Nebula 4000 will be too much for group 1) and the feature set (lack of (decent) field monitor mounting, joy stick, replaceable batteries) and performance will be lacking for group 2).

    As someone who falls into group 3) I think this guy still holds promise. I mainly solo shoot weddings where there is no time to setup a full sized gimbal and portability is paramount. I don't mind spending time getting it setup for the one body+lens combo I will be using before hand and 2 hours of runtime should be fine given I don't fly a camera the whole event.

    I placed an order with Goodluckbuy on 11/21. No confirmation email or shipping info but the funds were withdrawn and the order is marked 'processed' on the site. I paid for 3-5 day shipping so it might be on its way.

    I will be sure and post my thoughts once I have one in hand.

  • Manu4VendettaManu4Vendetta

    Well, I prefer see more test, mainly from users.

  • chefchef

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  • DMZDMZ

    Here is another test of Nebula 4000 3-axis:

    In this one the gimbal looks solid:

  • DMZDMZ

    @Vitaliy_Kiselev
    "And distance from "working mostly" to "really useful on set" is huge."

    I cannot agree more! Nevertheless, I do not think that Nebula 4000 has reached its potential yet. And not all of us need a "set" quality. Usefulness for, let's say, wedding videography, may satisfy many.

    Edit: after emailing with the test author, it came out that though he balanced the gimbal, he did not do any PID parameter optimization. Both are necessary for good results.

  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

    @DMZ

    You are right, partially.

    Most of gimbals differ exactly in this small things like used drives, calibration adjustment design, firmware and controller hardware. And distance from "working mostly" to "really useful on set" is huge.

  • DMZDMZ

    It is just a test. Any stabilization device, when not adjusted/balanced properly, will have problems. The question here is whether it can be adjusted with tweaking of the firmware parameters. It looks to me that the hand movement response of the gimbal is too "direct." A slight delay in the response and then a gentle speed increase should fix it. That's assuming that the setup is well balanced and a PID controller is used and properly designed.

    The setup was GH2 with 14-42mm at 24p. It is quite possible that GH4 with 7-14mm at 30p or 60p, or in slow motion, after optimized parameter adjustments, would look acceptably well.

  • paglezpaglez

    After last Manu4Vendetta's video, it's clear that Nebula is NOT my gimbal

  • Manu4VendettaManu4Vendetta

    In this test, shows a slight shack each time the operator walks frontally

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