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  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

    What kind of ND filter is needed to be able to shoot wide open with a 180º angle?

    Answer to your question does not exist as ND filter strength depends on actual lighting (as well as 180 degrees is different depending on fps setting).

    Also any special SD card to be able to shoot 4K or any Class10 will do?

    http://www.personal-view.com/talks/discussion/10276/gh4-memory-cards.-what-works-and-what-doesnt#Item_28

  • vulgatronvulgatron

    What kind of ND filter is needed to be able to shoot wide open with a 180º angle? Also any special SD card to be able to shoot 4K or any Class10 will do?

  • BenjaminChanBenjaminChan

    @abolit Like tosvus mentions, if I wish to add an accessory and also to free the battery/card compartment when I mount it to a tripod or a Gorillapod or small rig. Cause if you plan on shooting video with the LX100 in your bare hands, you'll need to be really steady to not produce jitters/rolling shutter/etc... A small Gorillapod will help stabilize a lot, and it's still a very light package to carry. In many cases, I will have the bare camera and I love that I can carry great image quality in such a small package. But there are other times when I will want to elevate my images to another level, and yes I will sometimes rig it and/or accessorize it. If I had a choice, I would have the LX100 for personal & family stuff only, and the GH4 for all my professional and artistic projects. But I unfortunately don't have the budget for the GH4 right now. So the LX100 is my access to 4K and great quality 1080p, and so I will use it in many different settings and projects, both personal and professional hence why I'm looking for a cage.

    @Aria Thanks for the link! Looks like a decent price for what you get too. I was also looking at this one :

    http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1040130-REG/walimex_pro_19882_light_weight_cage_for.html

  • vulgatronvulgatron

    Thanks Mark, I'll keep looking and comparing, but I believe I might go for it!

  • markr041markr041

    The LX100 has 24p. I just think 30p is obviously superior for anything with motion (I prefer natural to cinematic!). I don't know about photos - but you do get your choice of picture shape with no loss of resolution (4:3, 3:2, 16:9, 1:1) that you do not have with the GX7.

  • vulgatronvulgatron

    @markr041 Thanks for your suggestions Mark, I did download a couple of videos from your vimeo page and it seems like I can edit the videos just fine, so I don't think I'll have major problems. Low light performance seems pretty good as well. I thought the LX100 had 24p @4K at least in Europe, does it? Regarding the stabilisation is good to hear that the Lx100 is superb, that's reassuring. I also thought the GX7 had in body stabilisation but I just found out it doesn't work in video mode, that's a bummer. By the cinematic ( I knew the term might not be accurate) I refer to something like this, is a video from 16pads from the GX7 topic:

    If with the lens range of the LX100 I can get that kind of shots (street photography/portraits, some macro and wide shots) I think I know which way I should go. Plus all the benefits I could get from shooting 4k! Regarding the crop sensor is it a massive difference? I guess in video would be less noticeable but what about photos? Again thanks for your help!

  • markr041markr041

    @vulgatron 1. The GX7 and the LX100 have the exact same sensor. The LX100 uses the same processor as in the GH4. It is therefore unlikely there is much difference in the "cinematic" quality of the video (whatever your definition of that term) between the GX7 and the LX100. You do give up Cine-D and Cine-V, but otherwise you have all the picture controls of the GX7 on the LX100.

    1. If you do not mind 30p, shooting 4K on the LX100 will give you visibly superior 108030p than the GX7 HD. If you are not sure whether your computer can handle 4K, why don't you download any of the Vimeo videos I posted here - they are the 4K versions. Usually the constraint if any is the software, not the hardware. So you may need a small investment in a better editor - well worth it.

    2. The LZ100 is optically stabilized (you can turn it on or off). The 20mm pancake is not. You will be unable to shoot video handheld using the GX7 and the pancake, or your old Canon lenses. Period. The stabilizer on the LX100 is superb. What's the point of a small camera if you must uses a big tripod all the time to produce watchable video?

  • vulgatronvulgatron

    I was about to get a GX7 with the 20mm pancake, but this little camera makes me think if thats a good idea... I can get both for the same price, and I want it more for video than stills, I want good 1080p with 50 or 60p and both cameras provide that, I don't know if my macbook will handle 4K although it might be nice to use it as 1080 with stabilisation or do pannings kinda like a slider effect... Also I don't have any lenses, just a few old 35 and 50mm canon which with an adapter I could use on the GX7. I like the idea of having an "all in one" package with a nice range of focals, but I wonder if the long range of the LX100 will be enough for portraits, or if I'll be compromising a lot considering the old glass or the 20mm pancake. Would you consider the GX7 more "cinematic?" how's panning with the LX100? I've seen a couple of videos and it wasn't very smooth, but could be for many reasons... Man... so many cameras, and a very tight budget... what to do?!!! even do you think an A6000 or 5100 would be a better choice? :S

  • markr041markr041

  • karlkarl

    Received 3 Patona batteries today. Now loading. Will setup a test later to measure actual runtimes 3rd-party vs. original. Battery indicator works.

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  • markr041markr041

  • tosvustosvus

    @abolit I suppose if you want to use the lx100 with say an audio recorder/mic/led light, it could be useful. The onboard audio of the lx100 is probably not good for much other than family videos.

    Also, in theory, someone could create a cage that allows for opening the battery compartment while it is mounted. If you attach it straight to a mounting plate, you cannot get to the battery compartment/sd card.

  • PauloTeixeiraPauloTeixeira

    Finally got to try the LX100 today although brightly. 2160/24p. Shutter was at 60, Aperture was at f/1.7 and ISO was set to 400. It was also on auto focusing but since the lens was set to f/1.7, you shouldn't expect it to be decent. As for white balance and anything else, I have no idea. Again, I only used it briefly at a show. I'll try to get this sample up on Vimeo possibly later today so people can download.

  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

    @karl

    http://www.personal-view.com/talks/categories/camera-movement

  • karlkarl

    BTW, a fellow LX100 owner asked me if I could recommend a small, 2- or 3-axis handheld stabilizer for use with the LX100 - but I've never used such. Can anybody recommend one?

  • AriaAria

    @BenjaminChan, this cage seems big enough for the LX100 but not too big.

    http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00ITV4MX8/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1415455573&sr=8-1&pi=SY200_QL40

  • abolitabolit

    @BenjaminChan Why do you need the cage? Wouldn't it defeat the purpose of small size of LX100? Never understood the idea of "accessorizing" point and shoot cameras....

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  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

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    http://news.mapcamera.com/KASYAPA.php?itemid=25817

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  • BenjaminChanBenjaminChan

    Does anyone have any recommendations or know of any cage that could fit the LX100? It's quite small to handle and I feel like a small cage might make the handling better and also protect it. The BMPCC cages seem to all work with 1/4" threads for bottom and top, so I'm not sure they could work with the LX100. A GH or A7s cage might work, but I was looking for something a bit smaller perhaps...

  • karlkarl

    @WildLion: The LX100 is not waterproof (according to its specification, and I'll not try it) - it's weatherproof as long as it doesn't rain ;-)

    (To me this wasn't relevant because I'll have to buy an underwater housing anyway...)

  • markr041markr041

    The LX100 goes to a museum:

  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

    will the PV deal be shipped from inside the EU or from the outside? Will they be immediately in stock?

    It is same as other cameras deals, shipped from HK, of course it will be in stock.

  • WildLionWildLion

    @Vitaliy_Kiselev, will the PV deal be shipped from inside the EU or from the outside? Will they be immediately in stock?

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