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Varavon BirdyCam gimbal
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  • Thanks @_OZ urgh..$70 shipping to Australia. where is the logic in that.

    not sure if those coil cables will work too well with the gimbal if they pull against it when extended.

  • I got my birdycam last week, and I am pretty impressed with it. I like the foldable design and easy adjustment knobs. Setup out of the box was super easy, took me about 20mins or so to get familiar with the adjustment knobs to balance a gh4 with 12-35mm on it. after that it took about 5mins to set it up for 20-25-35mm focal lengths which was 2-4mm increments backwards and 1-2mm adjustment on the Yaw. The adjustable stand with level bubble is a nice touch as well as the locking knobs for quick re calibration if needed.

    Used it on a shoot the other day and I have to say the ease in changing focal lengths on the thing made up for its price tag. Having the joystick with the 5 custom presets is great and the ability to fine tune through the app on the spot is great too. All the gimbals now days can probably do this. Ended up flying the gimbal all day and you could feel it in the arms after a while especially when holding with one arm and locking focus with the other at face eye level. I think my arms would have fallen off if it was the Ronin which was my other purchase choice but weight in the end, joystick and collapsable arms made me choose the birdycam. It can do briefcase mode too like the Ronin which i wasn't too sure it could do, but you could also just fold the arms back and its the same thing.

    Had some concerns running a not so flexible hdmi cable from the cam fearing it would put the gimbal off balance but it flew fine. On the look out for an ultra thing micro hdmi cable now. Suggestions anyone?

    I did notice the motors producing high pitch frequency sound on high, kind of went away on ultra high, and disappeared on low. Will have to look into that a bit more.

    It also uses the odd 0.7mm dc sized plug so I couldn't use any of my other 12v power supplies on the day of the shoot so your stuck using their batteries unless you cut it and put on a universal dc adapter plug. Not ready to do that just yet ha. If anyone knows of 0.7mm dc adapter or where I could find a 0.7mm female dc plug thats not made for a circuit board that would be great.

    I'd have to agree that the price is a bit much for it. If it had stayed at or just below the 2k mark as originally announced then I'd say its pretty good value for money considering it falls between the Ronin and lower budget gimbals. It may not be the best looking gimbal but its a well thought out gimbal in my books so far.

  • The Birdycam is super light but feels like a typical Varavon product, quite ok but not pro grade

    Like it :-) I'll tell them to add Apple logo to calm you :-)

    Also when pushed its motors were struggling and making weird sounds which was considered normal by the salespeople in their booth.

    What does it mean?

  • Had the chance to check both the Birdycam and Ronin at IBC. The Ronin is much nicer but kinda heavy (I tested it with an Epic). The Birdycam is super light but feels like a typical Varavon product, quite ok but not pro grade. Also when pushed its motors were struggling and making weird sounds which was considered normal by the salespeople in their booth. The Birdycam still has the great advantage of size/weight, but for that price? Simply no way..

  • Would you guys say it's necessary to have a friend on set to control pan and tilt? Am thinking about getting this but I mainly shoot solo so that may be a problem.

  • can someone try to put black magic cinema camera on it. They have pictures with one. I'd like to know if it works.

  • @Dancing Camera. Would love to hear your thoughts on this coming from Steady background.

    I am considering one of these as a gear purchase before end of year tax time. Its between the Birdycam and the Ronin for me.

  • The Birdycam unit came extremely fast, and I'm quite impressed with the build quality. In getting accustomed to the feel, I've done shots I could never, ever have accomplished with typical mechanical steadicams. Very exciting. Fine tuning is easy with the android app, but this is really a simple setup and nearly good to go from when it comes out of the box. Varavon has clearly put a lot of time and effort into this product.

    Battery life appears to be much greater than I originally thought, but needs further testing.

    I'll post more as I break this in, but very optimistic at the moment.

  • @peaceonearth

    It is not pro operator or operator at all. Just guy who works at Varavon.

  • either the operator needs more practice or the Birdy isnt that flawless as it should. Very shaky and tilted.

  • Tunable PIDs from your phone? That is good thinking. I just ordered this and will post my thoughts after I take it through it's paces later in the month.

    As a long-time steadi operator I have been dubious to try something not fully manual and mechanical, but the price and initial reviews are right. This product could separate itself in the smaller form-factor arena if the modes are reliably implemented and the joystick is rugged and responsive. Varavon appears to have done substantial product development, and they consistently use good quality parts and machining in their products (my guess as to why Vitaliy made connections with them). The biggest issue on small cam rigs like the merlin, liang sleds is the wind shearing when outdoors, even with an arm and vest.

    I'm curious about battery life (16v 10Ah is expensive to reproduce, and I'll want to custom build for more power if possible).

    If anyone has specific questions I can answer within reason, feel free to ask and I'll try to answer once the unit arrives.

  • I'll be getting mine in on Thurs. Can't wait to test it with the BMCC 2.5k and the Pocket. Don't be surprised if this gimbal starts putting out much better results than the Ronin in the under 5lb body arena.

    Controlling pan and tilt via an Android app... is freakin amazing. Just the movi control module to let you do that is more than the birdy.

  • @SeekingHeartwood

    Any details on the smaller version? I would be quite interested ...

  • @MRfanny vertical height cannot be shortened, if you want a smaller rig, they are releasing a smaller one later in the year.

    as far as running, the amount of jitter is actually way more dependent on your ability to run smoothly. there is no gimbal that will give you no jitter at all while running, because that's an up and down movement, and these do not stabilize in that direction. there's no magic stabilizer that can get rid of the footfall of a bad operator.

  • whoa. just say the price drop in deals. that's got me thinking

  • I'd rather get this than the ronin because the ronin is so heavy it's unusable for most people(people think they can handle it, but they won't be able to) without other support. Even their ads have easyrigs and steadicams all over the place. That's with young strong professional steadicam guys.

    If people have one, please review it. And please check every screw hole and spring to make sure they're machined properly.

    I hate putting out this much money without touching one. But no rental house is going to carry them. I haven't found one in Scandinavia that carries even the Ronin. It's the over-priced movi all the way.

    anyone been able to get a Black Magic Cinema camera with a large lens working well on this. it's near the weight limit.

  • @seekheartwood can the vertical height be shortened from the top of the cam to the bottom of the top motor? is there any reason why it needs to be that long other than clearance for longer lenses? are you getting smooth walking/running shots? i've seen a few videos where there is still jitter when running. thanks

  • totally not fragile, i've hung this thing out of the back of a truck and rode through a crazy dusty dry lake bed, taken it out on the ocean, and i even store it in a backpack and take it hiking. i've used it at least 4 times a week since i first got mine around two months ago and it's held up amazingly well. haven't had a single problem with the hardware whatsoever. if you were to look at it now you'd think it was brand new

  • @chauncy

    Please just wait for actual feedback if you have some theory.

  • That said, how on earth would I know how strong it is from looking at a picture? this is the video I'm talking about. When he attaches the sled, parts of the side look not all that robust.

    This is probably their most technical product and I'm not sure they're up to it. If there can be a weak spot where there will be a lot of repeated torque, of course it would give one pause. I don't have a birdy to play with, so I have no idea.

    So I'm waiting for a real review, not a quick look.

  • The side material on the sled looks thin. Believe me, I want to like it.

    Statement like "side material on the sled looks thin" make really no sense. Same as "walls of this bike frames are too thin to hold even baby". As it requires just basic understanding of materials and design.