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GH4 4K Panasonic video camera, official topic
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  • Nope didn't get a penny off Pany to do that. Wouldn't take it if they offered. I like the GH4. There, I admit it. Doing the interview was fun. We had a laugh and it went live! Hey what the fuck!

    What it means is that I get more info and valuable time with Panasonic for personal-view.com. I will be doing an in-depth report on all the features of the GH4 this weekend - so any questions that need answering email/pm them asap.

    @endotoxic I wrote a few notes and wanted to include it, so, here and there I did read from a note or two! C'mon, it was an on-the-spot- video done quickly! I was invited to put across my thoughts to Jessops store visitors in layman's terms. Just remember this: Good relationship with Panasonic = good relationship for p-v. Simple. And that's what its all about.

  • Hey Gift Horse. Can I look inside your mouth?

  • @caveport of course. I'm certain they just meant it had no stabilization in post. But what kind of surprises me (well, surprise might be a strong word since these ARE forums!) is that the clip doesn't get some praise. If it is a genuine GH4 video, it's one of the best I've seen: colors aren't over-saturated, very little aliasing or moire, and the best drone footage yet. Watching it in 1080, I realize that's probably how I'm going to work with the camera for the most part: shoot in 4K and downscale to 1080. I just hope we can get some good CineLike to download and play with.

  • @jamesgh2 The aerial footage has supers on it which means it has been through a post production process. It's not straight out of the camera even if they did no treatment to it.

  • I think Nick is a good actor and is using his acting skills in the interview, even though it is clear he really likes the camera. I believe he is making the most of an opportunity to help sell as many of these as possible so we will have a GH5 to look forward to in the future.

    Everyone I talk to about shooting video on a DSLR thinks Canon is the best at video based on the name alone. We need more videos like Nick did to get the word out that this is possibly the best hybrid video/stills camera as of May 2014.

    Anyway, I respect Nick and think that his motives are to further the community even at the risk of being misunderstood.

  • Did Nick get paid or get a free camera?

    Nope :-) He spend his time to provide you useful information.

  • Did Nick get paid or get a free camera?

  • @Vitaliy I bow before you^^ but it was my understanding that RAW specifically means uncompressed video, whereas raw footage would mean unedited or color corrected. I could be wrong, though. It's happened once or twice..

    Edit: In this case, I guess raw means they didn't apply any stabilization in post.

  • Not to knock Nick, he's a pretty charismatic guy, but... I felt the same as John Tollwannabe. Nick does make me even more excited about the new camera - and the video gave me my first look at how the screen appears when adjusting curves and so forth (pretty nifty stuff!), but I guess I was expecting something different. I'm sure we'll hear more about the camera from him once he has one in his hands. BTW, what I'm looking forward to more than anything else is a GH4 Demobbed! The GH3 version was pure brilliance.

  • Only quibble is it says RAW footage, when they should have just said unedited or color corrected or something.

    raw word can have different meanings, from real raw sensor data, to just footage that is unedited and directly from camera.

  • @jamesgh2 I just watched the aerial footage you shared in 1080p and it looks beautiful. Only quibble is it says RAW footage, when they should have just said unedited or color corrected or something. There is no 4K RAW on the GH4. Aside from that, like you said, if it's the real deal, very pleasing quality. What really struck me is the tonality.

  • Sir Driftwood you are reading while being interviewd? why is that.

  • Is it me me...or does it look like Nick wants to crack up laughing during that interview?

  • However, to be truthful, I thought that clip was like a promo spiel written by Panasonic marketers

    I think you really off the course here. Accusing Nick for providing useful interview and information is just very sad. If you want to do something better - do it. As Nick said with time he'll provide review and much more detailed information.

  • @jamesgh2

    I'm sure Nick is a great guy and has really knocked the DSLR filmmaking community on its ear with his wonderful accomplishments, especially with the GH2.

    However, to be truthful, I thought that clip played like a promo spiel written by Panasonic marketers (like the B&H Photo GH4 intro video I saw on Youtube). I really don't want an advertisement (though I don't think Nick intended it to be one... I hope), I would much rather have a solidly objective review from the pros that highlights the positives and constructively lays out the negatives of the camera (features, quality, and price) even if it ruffles a company's feathers. It would be much more helpful to the community as a whole and in the end, even the manufacturer.

    Sometimes I think even Philip Bloom doesn't know when he's blurring the line between being an objective photography product critic and teacher and slavish manufacturer fan boy.

    That's my takeaway. Fire at will.

  • Nick Driftwood's take:

  • Not sure if this is real GH4 footage but if it is the 4k version shows a very strong codec and a moire aliasing torture test passed perfectly on the roof tiles. Panasonic did an amazing job with this codec at just 100mbits.

  • Here is some new Panasonic demo footage. Wish it was downloadable as youtube's codec breaks with the detail. It still looks quite good.

  • All the footage I've seen is 25p - so just wondering, is there a reason for this do you think? I'm used to the GH2 which wasn't so good in 25p (PAL models) compared with 23.976.

  • @Ralph_B It was one of the things I forgot to check over but hopefully will have some more time on this week. I'm guessing the FHD modes at 1080p 50p/60p modes will work with Etc Mode like on the GX7 and GM1.

    As you all know Etc mode = extra processing so Etc mode is not going to work in the 4k modes or All-Intra 200Mbps mode.

    Like the GH3 Etc mode is 2.4x size for motion pictures with Rec Quality [FHD], 3.6x size when Rec Quality set to [HD] and 4.8x size when Rec Quality is set to [VGA].

    I will confirm all Etc modes just as soon as I can.

  • To my mind, the files coming from Emmanuel Pampuri are awesome !!! I didn't expext so much dynamic for this little "cheap" camera... Men... that's a mirrorless camera coming à 1500 euros !!! What did you get in the near past for this amount ? 7D ? F.....G DSLR with poor video quality... I got a 5D Mark III now and i think i'll sell it as soon as this little baby will touch the ground in France where I live. These pictures fron a beta GH4 are encouraging. That Cine D is really really promising, compared to my old GH2 which was clipping whites and blacks... I'm happy to say it'll be there soon !!!

    My 0.02 US DOLLARS !!!

  • Im shure we will see those algotithms very soon.

  • Next thing in demand: good scaling algorithms (that are quick and easy to implement)

  • I did a read about the Panasonic Cinegamma-D and Cinegamma-V concept used in previous cameras.

    The D version is intended for a flat look to do post grading. The V version is intended for something like "in-camera grading" improving dynamic range without the flat look.

    If the V version delivers a good dynamic range with good calibrated gamma and contrast straight from camera it will be great for a fast workflow.

    It would be interesting to see a comparison between both D and V and also a comparison among the curves presets for shadow/highlight improvement.

    I am keeping the GH2 because it is a great camera and no money for a GH4 now, but it is interesting to see how the technology is improving.