I found this GH3 vs BMPCC I hope it hasn't been posted

@test1 @stip

use PM, it is not personal chat here.

@test1

Stop the flame.

if it is not functioning as described then return it and get your money back. Simple as that.

if you dont like it dont buy it

thanks, it's the first time someone is lecturing me this. Maybe you also have some advice on how to live my life?

if you dont like it dont buy it… move on it's only a camera? no need to come back and post how shit its bloom is?

... and "re-calibration" will happen after IBC which is too late for most people who have already one to send it back for 30-days-money-back-garantee.

It's starting to get ugly.

It seems BMD briefed their staff worldwide to never call the blooming issue an issue, defect or fault, to be on the safe side legally. They told several guys who wanted to send their Pocket in for recalibration that it will be a courtesy and that the camera is not defect - they repeatedly mentioned that.

That means that they might send you your Pocket back, not having fixed the issue to your satisfaction or at all, without being legally bound to further look into it or pay shipping ect.

Everyone who has or gets a Pocket and wants to send it in, make clear that it's a camera fault everytime you communicate with them.

I believe they are trying to fix the issue, just make sure to adress this as a camera fault.

@theconformist

There was a comparison picture posted between a pocket cam and another BM camera. It was the exact same thing and the biggest difference was the spikes on the circular orbs. I have seen it in almost every piece of footage that has been presented.

My point is that people don't see the extra dynamic range. They definitely will see the strange, pointy, star like, white orb, thingy though.

@mpgxsvcd Huh? The "blooming" does not present itself as "stars" but as circular orbs. It's not the audience's job to determine whether the footage needed more dynamic range - it's the editors, because more dynamic range enables them to do more precise color correction & grading.

@jakepowell personally I do not feel the "blooming" is that big of a deal - choose your shots carefully. to claim it makes the camera useless... i don't mean to offend but that's silly. the next cheapest option (BMCC) will cost you over $3k (not including lenses, rig, etc). essentially the Pocket (as far as I've seen) doesn't allow you to shoot in cities at night without "blooming", which only other cinematographers even notice.

@itimjim Blackmagic Design's behavior regarding the sensor, the delay on shipping, updates, etc is appalling. They came out and made some BIG claims, and now they've disappeared and refuse to offer useful information to their customers. That being said - again - it is unwise to expect (at least) $3k worth of capabilities for $1k without issues. If you would rather have limited DR and more noise over the trade-offs then keep your GH3 or whatever you have.

The bottom line is that what Blackmagic claimed (or what people believed they were claiming) - a fully-functional, revolutionary camera for $1k offering 13 stops or DR, etc, etc... seems to have been too good to be true. The reality of the camera's abilities and trade-offs make it "better or worse" than other options based solely on the user's priorities and value judgments.

The blooming and "black dot" issue are problems, but given the camera's price point, they really need to be looked at simply as limitations of the camera.

Don't accept this. Limitation is a cheap display, missing audio meters, restriction nowadays to 25/30p - but not this bad image quality.

I agree @itimjim . Hoping they can shift calibration slightly toward blacks to reign in that highlight clipping and smooth the roll off without losing much shadow detail. A little noise is not the end of the world.

@theconformist i agree to an extent that people should accept some trade off's that are inevitable and expected like short battery life, formatting and deleting clips etc... these are gripes and minor irritations, design choices some of them even. but the blooming sensor white orbs is a real issue. we shouldn't have to put up with issues like that which in my eyes make a camera pretty useless. i think BM need to be more transparent with us that the first batch is beta testing. or better still take the bloody time to conduct proper tests themselves! i still like BM and i think most people do to , their rocking the boat and people respect them for that and some really great achievements they have made like the BMCC . however i think this contributes and aggravates the issue further - we like them and don't want to think of them as greedy bad companies like the P , C and S words so when they disappoint its just that much more disappointing! transparency. some work on PR and a bit more care are needed to stop this downward spiral BMD seem to be on ..... do not fuck up the 4k!