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2K BlackMagic Pocket Cinema Camera, active m43, $995
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  • Blackmagic is certainly not on my good side for the delays on this camera - pre-ordered on first day, here we are two months after "release" and still no camera.

    However, the whining about the camera itself has got to stop. The blooming and "black dot" issue are problems, but given the camera's price point, they really need to be looked at simply as limitations of the camera. You have to be careful about how you shoot and aren't going to be able to get all the kinds of shots you want. You just come off sounding like a child when you complain that a camera capable of images previously reserved for cameras many times more expensive has limitations. Hopefully, Blackmagic will work to and eventually will resolve these issues, but if the reliability of your DSLR despite it's imaging limitations are preferable, then just stick with your DSLR and quit griping.

    As for other issues: Short battery life, no in-camera formatting, etc... Life is full of trade-offs, and unfortunately, the more money you have, the less trade-offs you have to deal with. That's reality. To not expect LOADS more trade-offs in a camera offering the Pocket's specs at it's price amounts to wanting to have your cake and eat it too.

  • I think this is why I didn't see a problem with the demo version on the floor of the BMD event. I pointed it at lights and didn't get blooming. Which if it's a sensor issue, then it's a production sensor issue. So may be a repeat of the last sensor problem with the BMCC. Or like they said... a calibration issue. Cuz it was definitely not there on the camera I played with. Which was a "test camera" so pump the brakes rather than slamming it in reverse.

    Keep in mind; you are all beta testers in BMD's release model, have been since day one... They should come out and tell you that... and I think them not doing that is what's causing the bad mojo.

  • @mpgxsvcd: ahh you mean flowmotion 3.03? i thought that was not officially released? rumour is it even has 13 stops of DR, editable filmmodes and 16bit color space?

    i agree with you on your statement about BM. they wanted more than they can swallow. then this is the first generation of those cameras and i would be more than happy if they bring some movement into the market. for the next 10 years i dont want to have a new canon each year with no other development than adding one megapixel or a menu point. sometimes people have to strive for things that seem almost utopic, unless the name of their product contains something like "bolex".

  • If it was easy to put RAW video in an affordable camera someone would have done it already. I think BM bit off more than they can chew.

  • @Mirrorkisser

    hacked gh2 with 10-11 stops of DR? could you please tell me what kind of magic hack you are using?? :-)

    The one that transforms 8 bit H.264 into lossless RAW. I thought everyone was using that one?

    Oops maybe I was supposed to keep that a secret?

  • Essentially no audio, bad sensors, battery life less than advertised, questions about DR, blooms, highlight cutoff, poor customer support, arrogant reply that all sensors bloom, vertical lines, glow around objects, clipping chroma channels at different levels, peaking not visible at higher ISO

    What have I missed in this PR disaster?

  • Evidently, there are quality issues with some of the arriving new BMPCC

    this whole Blackmagic Camera thing doesn't feel professional anymore. Overpromise, underdeliver big time.

    @Vitaliy_Kiselev Can we talk about that Pentax K-5 raw video hack again ;)

  • Here it is how is BM right now:

  • @lolodigital hacked gh2 with 10-11 stops of DR? could you please tell me what kind of magic hack you are using?? :-)

    BMs customer treatment is inacceptable. bringing the camera in for calibration is a smack into every customers face. you dont have to live in botswana to have problems finding local support.

    For the price the camera is still appealing to me. Lets give this baby some time on the market, i can still recall all the screaming about the gh3s shortcomings in the beginning. Also i am surprised that some people really think they would get a super duper flawless camera without any shortcomings for that price. Which camera is free of that? Find the tool that works best for your needs and use it.

  • It looks like the end of BM cinema camera division may have come because of this...

  • @philiplipetz I will buy yours. Sending you a PM.

  • Cancelled my preorder too ... I don't see any footage that convince me about 13 stops DR.. seems to be 10-11 DR, like hacked GH2 ... and blooming effect is not acceptable.

  • @lmackreath

    All sensors, be it CCD or CMOS, will have a ‘blooming’ effect when during severe overexposure, the pixel is over >saturated and excessive charges overflow to neighbouring pixels. It just looks different depending on the >sensor type.

    I thought the whole point of buying the BM camera was to prevent blooming by having a greater dynamic range. Now its only strength appears to be the same weakness that every other camera has?

  • Evidently, there are quality issues with some of the arriving new BMPCC

  • it's the other way round. Now we now where white orbs are coming from. The name of the company is BlackMagic

  • I know why it is happening second year in a row.

    They need to order proper service.

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  • Selling ours for cost, don't want to be treated this way. I will return the BM ATEM We ordered. Done with such treatment. Have already sold our BMCC cams

  • Well I actually canceled my preorder, decided to get a Gh3 instead. Although the ProRes and RAW sound great this camera has too many issues for me (no audio levels, no manual white balance, horrible battery life, sensor crop too extreme for my lenses, SD card requirements are a bit steep and now with the actually issues popping up.

    I think I will get more use out of the Gh3 with it's slow-mo and time lapse features.

  • I'm sure BMD have quietly halted production to patch the Pocket, so all this 'recalibration' story is just they don't have to admit the big failure. A week ago I got news from cvp (uk) that they were going to get cameras shortly, but after finding the orb issue that didn't happen. Now expected date shifted to 27.09!

  • @rsquires +1 on cancelling my order :-(

    The statement of Kristian Lam shows one of the following:

    1) They (BMD) don't care about the issue because "they are too far down the line with the cameras"

    2) He should have kept his mouth shut or he should have said "we're investigating this issue, we'll get back with an update..." , so the future BMPCC owners won't get scared too much :-)

    3) There are no human beings at BMD who can actually see the difference between what is BAD in the sensors of BMPCC and what's not :-)

    4) He should have said: "Be happy that you can have this "magical cinema wand" and STOP bothering us with this little issue! >-( We've got a lot of other huge problems with 4K" :-)

  • In the end they will fix it or they have to take the camera back for refund. "Recalibrating" imho is just another word for "serious problem, send the camera back", see their statement for the 4K. You don't know what they will do in fact but as long as they fix the issue I don't care.

  • I cancelled my order with thestatement from Kristian Lam. My feeling is they are too far down the line with the cameras, it's a sensor issue which just wasn't apparent when they rushed it through testing, but they can't go back on the choice because that's the sensor they bought into. But to my mind the smeary footage I have seen and the blooming no longer give me any faith in this camera. Which is a bloody shame because I really liked the sound of it when I first saw the marketing.

  • And this is just LOL.

    I'm sad to say this but you're absolutely right. What a crap. I suppose they still ship those cameras...

  • @lmackreath

    Seems like it is issue they can't fix.

    We are not seeing this on some of our test cameras so it might be something that is calibration related. Please contact your nearest support office and we’ll run another calibration on the camera.

    And this is just LOL.