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2K BlackMagic Pocket Cinema Camera, active m43, $995
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  • MarcioKMarcioK

    @Vitaliy_Kiselev got it. :)

    I've replied more to show how the life of a photographer / filmmaker is hard here, pricewise. :) Let's go back to the topic.

  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

    @MarcioK

    I think it is really not about BMPC :-) And @jimmykorea is banned for one month for constant fighting and many complains from members.

  • MarcioKMarcioK

    @ivanlee If you get the BMPC, tell me, I would like to take a look - I'm here in Rio too, will go to USA in december, and BMPC is one of the my possible buying choices. :)

  • MarcioKMarcioK

    @jimmykorea I guess that you entered the Soma site - which is the only one in the Blackmagic reseller site here in Brazil that shows product prices.

    MacBook Pro listed at R$4399,00. Same price as the Brazil's Apple site. It's the lowset spec MacBook Pro, 13 inches, 500 Gb Hdd, 4 Gb Ram, no Retina model. In the today's currency exchange to british pounds = 1264,86 GBP

    Same model in the Apple's UK site = 999 GBP. 26,6% more.

    But EU prices are always higher than in the USA. Comparing to USA prices, the difference is even greater. This MacBook in Brazil = US$ 1923,80. In the Apple Store USA = US$ 1199,00. 60% more.

    And regarding to cameras, the difference is great too. A Canon 5D Mark III in BHPhoto = US$ 3499,00, body only. In one of the most regarding importers here in Rio de Janeiro = R$ 11.999,99 = US$ 5247,48

    Since the BMPC is a niche product, probably 100% to 150% more is not impossible.

    And remember that the average paying for the jobs here is about the half in dollars compared to USA / UK for the same job. Then, you could consider that the price compared to the incomes here are doubled.

  • peaceonearthpeaceonearth

    @jimmykorea most of all are no english natives and so am I. I would like to ask you to check you postings regarding politeness to other members. Terms like "you are talking nonsense" are offending and probably you wanted just say that he might be wrong. Thanks!

  • jimmykoreajimmykorea

    @rlima I'm not expert in Brazil but I would say your probably talking nonsense. I clicked quickly onto one of the resellers from the BM site, the first product that popped up was a Mac Book and it was quite a bit cheaper than I would pay in the UK once I did a rough currency conversion. Show me the Black Magic Pocket camera from a Brazilian source that is $2,500 like you claim? And it would be more with currency conversion on top of all that tax so.....unlikely....I could be wrong but prove it.

  • TscheckoffTscheckoff

    @Vitaliy: That's great news!

  • rlimarlima

    @jimmykorea In Brazil IF and WHEN it's available we are gonna pay 150% more, not 10-20% :(

  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

    We plan to have BMPC among our deals soon :-)

  • feonnfeonn

    A reply from CVP in UK I got this morning:

    Thank you for your email regarding the BMC Pocket Camera,

    To give you a quick update, Our supplier has been in touch with an update from Black Magic. They are currently reporting that full production of the Pocket Camera is underway and the first units off the line are now in testing.

    They have also stated that this is in line with the expectations of the end of July and they expect to see the unit with distributors during August.

    Although this is a few weeks longer than we were promised when the camera was launched it is good to note that they are not reporting any issues with the production, so the long delays of the original 2.5k camera should not happen again with the Pocket model.

    I am unable to estimate your delivery date as we do not yet know how many units we are due to have delivered. Once we have an idea of quantities and a more specific delivery date we will be in contact to update you.

    There is hope!

  • jimmykoreajimmykorea

    @ivanlee Have you checked the price on the Black Magic site for Brazilian dealers? I would check their prices before buying off eBay or buying from the US. Yes the price may be 10-20% more if you buy in Brazil but you have that point of contact if the camera has problems.

    No offence but you may find what you think is import duties making it expensive is actually due to currency devaluation, which the Real has suffered from in recent times, a US purchase therefore might be similar to Brazil. Worth checking the latest conversion price...

    I pay about 10-20% more in Korea but I think it's worth it for that point of contact and also IF you apply early some of these countries actually get cameras before the US/Europe due to smaller numbers. Guys from Korea and Japan were getting the EF from the first shipments. Which is why I'm quite positive cause I'm first with my particular dealer here.

  • philiplipetzphiliplipetz

    I am in the Porte Allegre area often.

  • ivanleeivanlee

    Rio de Janeiro. Yeah, the import duties are obscene....lol, it's much better to just go to US and bring to Brasil, the import duties are much lower... I still don't have a preorder... :(

  • philiplipetzphiliplipetz

    Where in Brasil are you?

  • philiplipetzphiliplipetz

    If you do not have a preorder your chances of getting one are not great. But even on eBay a resell will be much cheaper than you would find in Brasil where import duties are enormous.

  • ivanleeivanlee

    I'm really interested on this camera, but I'm a bit worried if I'll be able to get it... I live in Brazil and I'm going to US in September 19th and I'm staying until October 5th... So Blackmagic must be available this time I'm staying there...

  • TheNewDealTheNewDeal

    Businesses are not your friend or lover. They are just a business. Trying to make payroll and stay on top of a huge stack of hard to predict issues. Don't think for a second that any will do more than 60% of anything right.

    Is this your first rodeo? I hear people planning important shoots and deadlines around a camera that they haven't really used yet? Do you also buy lottery tickets? Who knows what this thing will really do in shipping versions, or how consistent they will be shot to shot or camera to camera yet.

    If nothing else, see this as a great learning experience. Create from your own experience. Expect things (many) to go wrong. That's what pro means to me. Always an A plan and a B plan and a C plan.

    Poop will happen. Be nimble enough not to step in it twice...

  • rlimarlima

    I agree with bwhitz. Letz wait guys, nothing else can be done. How many times Panasonic delayed the GHs? At least 6 months for GH2.

  • bwhitzbwhitz

    Well, I'm glad I decided to get my GH3 first... but come on... Did people really expect them to magically appear on their door steps July 25th? Who is offering anything even close to BM anytime soon?Canon might have their "affordable" C200 camera that records to an updated 35mbps codec in 5 years for $10,000...

  • dream_beamdream_beam

    @philiplipetz Thanks for pointing that out, sorry for my misunderstanding of the BMDPCC Prores spec

  • dream_beamdream_beam

    Hi, @jimmykorea, thanks for asking. my circumstances are that if my order is not shipped before the middle of August then I am running the risk of paying huge import duties which might be exposed in Sep 2013 on all parcels coming to our country. I am just waiting, that's it. On the specs of BMDPCC, regarding Prores is sufficient to me and I am sure that ver.2 will be better and ver.3 might suit all my needs for video. Let's see how it goes. The other day any of big producer may eventually release new sensor or raw video cam or whatever that will change the game completely. The changes have been so fast recently.

  • philiplipetzphiliplipetz

    @Dream_Beam

    JB says DR is only 12 stops in ProRes. But the BM color science is still great at any DR.

  • jimmykoreajimmykorea

    @dream_beam Lets get back on topic by not talking about shipping delays and instead talk about your personal circumstances and another camera?

  • dream_beamdream_beam

    @VK this topic almost lost its track, it's no longer about the camera itself rather than about human nature.

    Should be created another one?... Like 'frustration of people having no BMPCC' ?

    Let's forget about this little promising cam for about 2-3 weeks.

    P.S. I am still on preorder list myself and will stay for a couple of months I suppose as the order was placed in June 2013. Prores with 13 stops DR is just fine to me. In the meantime GH2 with Intravenus is doing nice job at present.

  • jimmykoreajimmykorea

    @Tron I was going to say the same, but I think it's worse than that. People don't have any self respect. I've seen people complain like bitter children on forums and the second they get their camera they don't say a word about the same shipping delays anymore. They act like everyone didn't just listen to them scream like children and attack others cause they personally didn't get what they wanted. What's worse is no one questions their legitimacy at being so self centred and acting like self comforting babies.

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