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2K BlackMagic Pocket Cinema Camera, active m43, $995
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  • Where's the stupid hitler rant video about the shipping delays?

  • @luxis There is a way to stop black magic...if youre really upset.

  • Yep, I'm sure they're not happy about it either and realize the consequences of long delays. Bummer.

  • As far as the time and deadlines the BM have the snake oil business model going on...for sure with the 4k model they will face the consequences of many people just getting the readily available 5dIII plus ML.

  • Why does it seem like these guys don't really believe that deadlines are ever firm?

  • @Tungee78 My deadline is more like mid August if not I won't make my shoot date. Myself I'm looking @ the Canon 5D Mark II like the way the .Raw images look even better than the MkIII. Let's not bash BM they are a great company, and very innovative they just have a lateness problem.

  • @vicharris Wow!!! I'm gonna have to give them a call.

  • Ok, i set myself a deadline until the end of the August: if the Pocket will ship everything will be ok..... If not, i will cancel my order and go Canon... will also sell all my cinelenses.... What i see from the MagicLantern hack amazes me..... So no tears from myside.... What a unprofessional company BM is...

  • @TrackZillas Yep, you can order one right now. They are in stock at Adorama and B&H. Messed around with Kholis and Colliers a few weeks ago and the MFT mount versions are much more convenient.

  • @vicharris I know right.. are those available @ the moment? I was thinking the same thing Late OCT for some & end of the year for the rest of us. Let see how it pans-out, I was hoping on getting it this month to shoot one of my projects with it but from the looks of it won't happen. I'm now forced to look for other alternatives.

  • @Trackzillas Well that sucks. I'm thinking of cancelling this and just grabbing a BMC MFT mount and saying screw it. Kind of disappointed in BM for this. I get that things don't go as you plan but it does sound like most of us will not receive on till the end of the year.

  • @jimmykorea I feel you.. Yeah I guess that's how BM is. Did you order a BMPC last minute, or recently?

  • @Trackzillas If only someone had typed late Summer rather than July on the website.

    My wife is a last minute person, it drives me nuts, she says its much more fun to rush than be anywhere we need to go in plenty of time. I'm the opposite, I hate stress and want everything done early with plenty of time to spare. I guess BM is a bit like my wife....

  • @johnbrawley Hopefully you don't let a few detractors steal your enthusiasm for testing and subsequently sharing the results of those tests. People sometimes forget the time necessary to do these tests and that it takes you away from doing other things. The fact that you do it at all, which I assume cuts into time you could be doing paid gigs or cutting a new reel or anything else that would have more benefit to you personally, is a testament to your passion for filmmaking and wanting to share knowledge with others.

    It takes a thick skin sometimes when dealing with the gamut of personalities on forums like these. I like to believe that away from the internet most people are actually good people, some just don't have good forum etiquette. Constructive debate is healthy. I may disagree with someone's assessment about a particular camera, lens, etc but it's how I present that opposing viewpoint that either adds or detracts from the conversation.

    Anyway, hopefully we see more stuff from you in the future John. I find it worthwhile.

  • Guy's have you seen this video about the Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera yet? Us filmakers & Shooters won't see one until September if you preordered the same minute it was announced & the majority of us I'm thinking late OCT - NOV even DEC. The preorder #'s are just way too much so they will ship them out evenly to the different resellers in small quantities and ramp it up. Check it out for yourself.. don't think the wait will be as long as the BMC, but I think there will be some substantial waiting to get them.
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  • @Chaos123x If that's true about 1 camera per dealer, that is unfortunate and a bit worrisome, especially based on track record. The shipping at end of July seems a bit misleading if what you say is accurate, as what it really means is that a select few will get access to cameras, which would allow BM to control the support side if any major problems are discovered.

    That's not a bad thing per se and would benefit everyone if they did indeed find some flaw in the first batch. But there should be some clarity in their press releases about the number to be shipped. I was told end of July as expected shipping by my dealer. To then get told it won't be until end of August or even September would be disappointing.

    Of course, I will do the right thing and wait for a statement directly from the horse's mouth. I try to only deal with facts as I find it is the best course for business.

    Hoping Blackmagic rolls this camera out in the right way and is transparent about it from the get go.

  • @jimmykorea maybe we could say he was 'liberally' crucified, but that might start an off-topic exchange!

  • @kavi Or the grammar police.

  • @johnbrawley With order fulfillment supposedly right around the corner and several units already shipped out to reviewers, would you be able to share the uncompressed files from your marketplace and coastline videos?

  • Phillip Bloom was literally crucified? Better call an ambulance.

  • @johnbrawley Whats a review but someone using the camera and sharing their thoughts, info and footage. So its kind or funny its you of all people saying that. Plus the camera shares so much from the BMCC that I dont expect to be surprised at this point. I dont suspose its worth all of us
    doing a group PLEASE for you to release shitty footage, personaly I learn a lot from it. Thanks for your input.

    And can I be blunt. I know putting anything out in the public realm for creatives is often tough. But I would say mainly you recieve praise with only a minority of critisim. Plus you dont suffer fools easily yourself and can be pretty direct. When I think of how some guys like Bloom and La Floret etc were literaly crucified its amazing how unscathed from the mob you are honestly.

  • @jimmykorea No one's had a camera to review yet, So there are no reviews....

    @vicharris I have plenty of shitty footage but I'm not up for the roasting if I release it. Too hard.

    jb

  • Hot Rod Camera says that all the big "select" dealers will only be getting one camera each in this first shipment. Yes they said ONE as in the number 1. lol

    I would say those are very limited quantities. They expect the first substantial shipment at the end of August.

  • @Quickhitrecord Maybe not official ones but is there honestly anything we dont already know about this camera? When i get the damn thing i expect the manual will instantly fly across the room toward the trashcan. :)

  • @kholi Nice job man your grading is awesome keep up the great work. Now I can't wait for my BMPC to come.