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2K BlackMagic Pocket Cinema Camera, active m43, $995
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  • jimmykoreajimmykorea

    This style?

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  • TrumpetmanTrumpetman

    @jimmykorea The advantage of this camera's size and weight isn't just for a B cam set up. The future gear for rigging this camera will be small and light as well, which means I can pack everything into a tiny carry on bag and shoot any style I want anywhere in the world.

  • Brian202020Brian202020

    I'm getting both the BMCC MFT and the BMPCC. The BMPCC will mostly be used in stealthy or car mount situations. For that it'll be naked using the Nikon batteries. That said I will more than likely use it from time to time as a B cam for interviews. For this I will probably have an ulra small light weight rig set up that will hold a larger battery.

  • jimmykoreajimmykorea

    My point was missed, I'm not against using any camera for anything. It's just why fight against the original designers purposes for each camera. Pocket seems the perfect B cam, low profile handheld doc shooter tool. But for more narrative rigged up set ups would seem obvious to get one of the larger cams. And my point about trying to make the pocket into a larger production cam is a false economy, it can be done, but why bother.

    Like I said, each to their own.

  • peaceonearthpeaceonearth

    @kevin_kirchman

    but sometimes a power solution is better than a pocket full of batteries.

    absolutely true! I made the experience shooting a full day with a GH2 and 4 batteries works fine. But if you need them the next day again you need at least two chargers if you dont want to get up at night to change batteries in the charger

  • kholikholi

    You can run BV1 right now with a top handle and an LCD if you wanted to, and in a pinch I have done just that and NEVER had an issue with poor handheld footage.

    I choose to use Viewfactor because I do use V-mount batteries, and most of my work requires rigging more than just a monitor to the camera (more mounting points with Viewfactor's strategic layout). But if you really wanted to just use a handle and an LCD you could fine.

    Coming from extensive use of the camera in various configurations.

    BPC (Pocket Cam) won't be any different, and you could likely use it with a handle under it like an old Super8 if you had a small viewfinder as well.

    I don't know a single larger sensor, small form factor camera that doesn't want some sort of extra to help stabilize it. GH2/3 included.

  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

    @jimmykorea

    Yes, everyone saw this :-)

    Yet if you think that BMCC type cameras are easy and fun to shoot without rig, you are wrong.

  • StylzStylz

    I agree with Ian_T. Nice to have my gh2 with 20mm when I want to be stealthy, or rig it up with a 30mm sigma and follow focus/rail/ect.. to get those cinematic shots in a controlled environment. Best of both worlds. Makes this camera exciting. Just went into a bar in downtown Las Vegas recently (freemont street) with my gh2 20mm low profile. Looked like a typical tourist with a "picture camera" around his neck. Wouldn't of worked with a 4k cam.

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  • jimmykoreajimmykorea

    That's a fair point but I don't think most people are thinking like that, I think they are going cheap for 'false' economy reasons not flexibility. And anyway I would argue again if that's what you want then having two cams might be similar price once you strive to turn the pocket cam into basically an EF mount.

  • Ian_TIan_T

    @jimmykorea I don't think it's silly. Why not just have the best of both worlds. Rig it up when you want something extra...tear it down when you want something stealthy. The BMCC or other cameras can not do that.

  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

    @jimmykorea

    It is good habit to understand that different people have different needs. And for some it is just light raw camera they want to use in different situation (as they do not have plenty of cameras) and get stable footage.

    As for BMCC type bodies, they need rigging even more.

  • jimmykoreajimmykorea

    Strikes me as weird why anyone would try to turn this pocket cam into a rigged, on tripod cam. Its primary strength with an IS lens is its small form factor and ability to shot low profile light and flexible. I see people spending more on rigging these little cameras than just getting a more expensive camera. When I hear disscussions about getting a metabones for it logic to me seems to fly out the wondow. If you find yourself spending more than a $1000+ to rig this cam, then I just recommend just getting the EF, MFT or if you afford 4k.

    Do what you want in the end, just seems silly.

  • vicharrisvicharris

    As long as you regulate the voltage the same they will work fine and yes, they are a great option. If you are going to be shooting all day it saves time and headache not having to pull the camera off the rig to change batteries. I use one like this for my GH2 but it's larger and I literally leave my camera on all day long, except during long breaks and it works great. I plan to connect my BMPCC up these when it comes in. I have no time to pull the camera off the ring and change batteries.

  • kevin_kirchmankevin_kirchman

    I know, they're great for flexibility, but sometimes a power solution is better than a pocket full of batteries. And if this does work with the DC in, it could power the camera for 5-7 times longer than the stock battery for near the same price.

  • jimmykoreajimmykorea

    you simply don't need anything other than the cheap nikon batteries unless you have to run the camera for more than an hour on one shot. Google them , they are cheap and last maybe 40-50 minutes each. The swappable battery and sdhc card are what makes this camera so great.

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/7-4V-1400mAh-EN-EL20-ENEL20-Li-Ion-Battery-DC125-charger-for-NIKON-1-J1-Camera-/181148266156?pt=Batteries_Chargers&hash=item2a2d472eac

  • kevin_kirchmankevin_kirchman

    Is there any reason to think an inexpensive battery solution like the one below wouldn't work? It provides 12v of DC power.

    http://www.amazon.com/Anker-Astro3-10000mAh-Multi-connectors/dp/B005NGKR54/ref=sr_1_3?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1370063099&sr=1-3&keywords=anker+battery

  • nomadnomad

    The SLR Magic 25mm is actually pretty sharp in the center. The edges don't match the Voigt 25mm.

  • philiplipetzphiliplipetz

    John Brawley Tests PRO 1 hour ago

    With regards to softness and the "softness" of this image....

    Firstly, people said the same thing about the BMCC when it came out...and this is a camera with no OLPF. I think we're used to seeing very processed images, Most .264 cameras tend to add sharpening in-camera as well as other things like coring.

    The BMCC and RAW way is to give you un-adulterated images. Even in ProRes. So these images haven't been sharpened or noise reduced AT ALL.

    You also have to remember that there IS a difference between this camera and the BMCC...resolution. I think the softness people are seeing is more to do these two differences than the lenses. The SLR Magic, especially the 25mm is actually pretty sharp.

  • philiplipetzphiliplipetz

    "I shot some tests with the BMCC alongside (the BMPCC) and there’s not much difference between them in resolution to the eye. I was actually surprised there wasn’t a bigger difference. There should be."

    John Brawley

    http://johnbrawley.wordpress.com/2013/05/26/shooting-from-the-hip-pocket/

  • jimmykoreajimmykorea

    It's a personal view of the look I want but I was at first crazy for the SLR magic lenses now I feel like the shallow soft look isn't my thing and I feel like to the casual viewer it isn't as cinematic as we think.

    Again it's personal but this last footage is making me think some of the Lumix lenses are going to be great on the pocket. It's the 12-35mm I have my doubts about due to a grey cast on footage I've desensitised. sharp contrasty lenses might be what you need to cut the flat dynamic range of the BM cameras and make it pop.

  • _gl_gl

    @jimmykorea it wasn't clear how well you know the lenses, you talked about them specifically on the Pocket footage. Sharpened they might look good enough (or not).

  • jimmykoreajimmykorea

    @gl. I read back and no one said anything about the camera being soft. but if your referring to what I said I was talking about the SLR Magic lenses, which everyone knows can be soft, in fact that's why people like them. It's a personal choice.

  • jimmykoreajimmykorea

    Ok i checked, it will have OIS.

  • jimmykoreajimmykorea

    it wouldn't make sense that it has OIS cause none of their primes have it. BUT looking at pictures of it, it looks like I can see a switch for it, so maybe it does.

    If only they put OIS on their other primes like the 14mm, 20mm or 25mm. I wonder what the future of OIS in lenses is however if they have in camera OIS.

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