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4K Black Magic Production Camera, raw, $2495 now
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  • WhiteRabbitWhiteRabbit

    @Brian202020, that does seem like a good way to make just one reduce the flange distance, in this case of EF-M, 18mm. Perhaps there is licencing rights or licencing cost issues from Canon, or the new EF-M mount electronic functions are more complicated to program from the BMCC side?

    The Sony FZ-mount has wide diameter all the way back to the mount/sensor. It seems like there would be no lenses, or only a few, limited by this mount, and it said to be a solid mount compared to the E-mount. I am now waiting to the "Production" mount version.

  • bheathbheath

    This is pure fun! What a boon for gh2 and m43 gear owners. Vitaliy, thanks for having all this information so well organized here. And thanks to the people on the concrete at NAB sending in their findings.

  • kellar42kellar42

    So, I'm slightly confused, compressed raw 4k internally, or only with recorder, and if only with recorder, then what is the internal res, 2.5k?...they lost me with wording in the announcement.

    As far the EF mount, I'm not its biggest fan, but I've got to admit, there are a lot of lenses out there that work with it, both Canon and electronic and manual and vintage and cinema and everything else. It makes a lot more sense on a Super 35mm sensor than it did on the original.

  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

    @andyharris

    Yep, can be good idea. And quite fun thing can happen if people find a way to convert pocket camera into full fledged one (use all sensor).

  • andyharrisandyharris

    @vitaliy --- all the image links on that URL are currently broken --- they are having a web nightmare ...

    July !! and I haven't got my 2.5K camera yet --- perhaps I ought cancel the order!

  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

    http://www.blackmagicdesign.com/products/blackmagicproductioncamera4k

  • PixCanFlyPixCanFly

    From Grant Petty

    Blackmagic Production Camera 4K

    The first of the Ultra HD products this year is a new camera!

    The new Blackmagic Production Camera 4K features a large Super 35 size sensor with a global shutter. This makes it easy to get shallow depth of field shots as well as shots with fast motion and is something people have been asking for.

    The Blackmagic Production Camera 4K is housed in the same chassis as our current Blackmagic Cinema Camera so all the third party accessories that have been developed will fit perfectly. It features an EF compatible lens mount as the sensor in this camera is way too large physically, to fit in a MFT lens mount.

    This new camera features recording to solid state disks in visually lossless compressed CinemaDNG RAW and ProRes 422 (HQ) formats, built in Thunderbolt and 6G-SDI output to allow Ultra HD video out. The sensor features 12 stops of dynamic range, so this camera gives a nice look to the images and is perfect for all types of production work!

    Blackmagic Production Camera 4K also includes 6G-SDI output for monitoring on Ultra HD displays and includes overlays. However this output can be down converted to regular HD when you want to use a more common and smaller monitor. The 6G-SDI output supports Ultra HD down the single BNC cable so it’s perfect for use with a live production switcher such as the new ATEM Production Studio 4K below!

    The Blackmagic Production Camera 4K will be available in July for $3,995.

  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

    @andyharris

    They just put information, so site went down as in 2012. Guys still did not learn to use cloud cache services.

  • andyharrisandyharris

    Interestingly the Black-Magic Website is down:

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  • OedipaxOedipax

    @shain, EF adapters will work on this, no? So you'd also be able to use F-mount, K-mount, m42, probably a few others I'm forgetting. As someone not in a position to rent PL glass most of the time anyway (and not a huge investment in native m4/3 stuff), I can totally live with this.

  • shianshian

    You can just use a crop mode - like with RED cams. The point is a shorter flange distance to allow ANYTHING OTHER THAN SHITTY CANON GLASS.

  • dkitsovdkitsov

    Does the MFT lenses even cover the super 35 sensor area?

  • mintcheeriosmintcheerios

    Nice, 12 stops would be the perfect compromise for me.

  • Brian202020Brian202020

    12 stops is acceptable, 10 is not.

  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

    Specs and photos will be available soon.

  • shianshian

    Buzz I'm getting from inside is that it they have a new sensor source and ample supply of sensors, and will be ready to ship by July [separate pipeline from the 2.5K] and the 4K trade off is it's now only 12 stops

  • WhiteRabbitWhiteRabbit

    EF is a good market to tap into, since they are currently stuck in 8-bit land. Give us a solid mount we can adapt to PL and the like!

  • Brian202020Brian202020

    EF-M should have been the mount. For under $200 you can have your electronic EF mount without missing the opportunity to mount other lenses like PL or Nikon.

    http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/883406-REG/Canon_6098b002_EF_M_Lens_Adapter_Kit.html

    http://www.mtfservices.com/home.html?page=shop.product_details&category_id=2&flypage=flypage.tpl&product_id=120

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Nikon-G-Lens-Canon-EOS-M-EF-M-Mirrorless-Mount-Camera-Adapter-Ring-/370698915544

  • arknoxarknox

    Not saying they shouldn't have made an EF option, just wish it was an adapter that was removable.

  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

    EF mount is a disappointment.

    For some, may be. But remember that big number will jump to this camera from Canon cameras, and it is advantage for them.

  • arknoxarknox

    EF mount is a disappointment. There is no mirror box in this camera, so therefore no need to have a flange distance so large. BM should have made it similar to the NEX mount and provided their own EF adapter. They could have had an unbelievable full frame Cinema Camera with the speed booster on this thing, but the EF flange distance prevents that from being possible.

    This chasing of 4K by manufacturers is frustrating. Why not give us good 2.5K/1080 RAW before jumping the gun to 4K, how about affordable 2.5K RAW with 120fps/240fps and some firmware improvements.

  • andyharrisandyharris

    Wow, perhaps I should get a order in and see if I can get the 4K before my 2.5K even turns up !

  • JaskettiJasketti

    This was posted on the other thread but I think it should be here too:

    http://www.creativevideo.co.uk/index.php?t=product/blackmagic_cinema_camera_4k_mft

    And if this is true, I know whose gonna get my dough.

  • SageSage

    No wonder they have been pressed for time (!)

  • mintcheeriosmintcheerios

    My only concern with this one is if having a global shutter has compromised the DR in any way (and if that's why they don't mention 13 stops). I'd actually prefer 13 stops with some rolling shutter than 11.5 stops without (of course unless there's an option for both). I'd definitely like to see some further details as they come out.

    As bad as BMD has been with shipping, they are the only company with a RAW cinema camera that is currently available on the market for under $3,000 (pre-order from Adorama and the wait is only a few weeks now). Now they are bringing the price of s35 4k RAW global shutter from $29,000 (Sony F55) down to <$4,000. I hope BMD has their lawyers ready for Red.

    Choice of EF mount was weird with the 2.5k camera, but makes perfect sense with this one. It's easy to find good cheap glass for almost any application with this mount/sensor size combo.

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