@pinger007
LOL a bmcc for a week dilutes your logic

@vitaliy_kiselev I don't want to turn something I like to do, into something I hate to do. I like to play guitar, but I'm not looking to join a band, if that makes any sense. I have a hobby, I will keep it a hobby. Everyone should have one, even if it's collecting stamps. IF by chance I decided to take up photography as a career, I wouldn't dare charge somebody $2k for 2 hours worth of work, $1k maybe ; )

Also, I don't HAVE to add post processing to any image. It's a look that I like, just as some people prefer to shoot B&W.

@endotoxic I'm not calling myself a photographer, and not every picture has heavy processing, the picture of the jet flying sideways had nothing done to it except crop.

could I find paying photography gigs? any day of the week. but it's just a hobby more or less, something I like to do in my spare time.

@GravitateMediaGroup i see your point.

Pro foto is not the ABILITY of prossesing raw, as i see in your pictures heavy prossesing and just subjects you have near you.

You may be called in the analog days, an amateur chemist on dark room, experimenting with own paper and prosses of chemicals for diferent looks, and hell they doo look nice in the finished product.

Pro foto is getting paid for capturing images.

Tech this days can make ANYONE take a good picture...but are you getting paid for it?

GMG, are you kidding, this is comic gold right here. Democratization in action. If you're for it, there's something for you here. If you're against it, you'll find what you're looking for as well. Plus, I applaud your huevos for taking an indefensible position and just not letting go. It's almost endearing, lol.

@burnetrhoades I tend to think you take life way to serious. calm down, take a deep breath, and remind yourself that everything is going to be alright.

@vitaliy_kiselev which phone has RAW? I gotta have one so I can take more steps to becoming a master photographer ; ) if it's an android, count me out lol the 645 app claims RAW I believe, but it's not.

And the hits keep on coming. Step right up folks to have your jaw drop to the floor at what you'll witness ITT.

@pinger007 what if you are a nature photographer? do you still need a understanding of human psychology?
Every picture does tell a story, no matter who took it, even that horizon.

the thing about that half ass horizon that was shot RAW, it can be made to look perfect.

I guess the video world needs to stop working on RAW technology because it has no purpose or need if it can be done right to begin with, colors and all.

@gmg

I'm thinking of all the things wrong with your view of photography, but I just can't summarize it into a simple, concise statement... I will say this - photography is a storytelling medium; each image should tell a story, and in an artistic way just as movies are cinematic. I guess that's what differentiates the technical photographer from the "real" photographer. Anyone can shoot a half-assed picture of a horizon in RAW, only to rescue the sky detail in post to make the image "technically" pleasing (might as well shoot death charts, cats, and bushes while you're at it), but it takes a good eye, an understanding of human psychology, and lots of heart to be a REAL photographer.

@stip yep....but nobody is forcing you to view it, and if they are call the police ; )

not to mention this topic could expand into 100 categories. freelance, wedding, artistic, nature, portraits, new born, gore, war, porn, macro, astro, aerial, advertising, underwater, action/sports......

there is no wrong way. and when you are shooting RAW, it stands true that much more.

shoot now, adjust later.

with photoshop, you can remove that pimple or phone line in the background....

Btw, it was one of most popular flame topic "You don't need skills, Photoshop will do it all for you in post".