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Recommendations for Editing Stations under $3K?
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  • Hackintoshes are nice if you don't plan on constantly updating the O.S. every time they're released as that usually introduces new issues; especially if you don't have the perfect configurations for them- they're plenty of guides out there for that. You usually have to plan ahead before you make a commitment and buy parts. I know for the new x79 platforms I don't think anyone has gotten Lion to run perfectly smooth on then, i.e. no sound, power management issues etc. Best alternative is to have both a mac and a PC as that seems to be working out well for me.

  • Can't recommend Hackintosh enough.

  • @Macalincag Fab!! Can't wait to get mine going!!

  • @Mark_the_Harp

    If you look at the first page of this topic, towards the bottom, I listed the specs of my latest build. The only reason I have it water-cooled is because I choose to overclock my CPU. The only thing that really gets it's temp up is when playing graphic intensive games. NLE doesn't even cause it to break a sweat. Nothing I have done has caused the CPU usage to exceed 30% either besides stress testing it with Prime 95.

  • @Macalincag That's similar to the system I'm buying - although I've gone for a GTX580. Looking forward to getting it - and I've bought a few bits and pieces in advance of it including that SSD boot drive which makes an amazing difference even in my old Q6600 quad core. You also gain because they don't need cooling of course. I also render (Vegas) to the SSD and that seems to work well. Haven't tried RAID but great suggestion. Holding off doing any serious editing till I get my new machine. Can't wait - and hope it's more exciting than watching things render at 1 frame every 3 seconds - although that teaches you zen-like patience.

    Am I right in thinking the 3930K runs pretty well without having expensive cooling? Mind you I'm in a cold house so it might be useful to keep my feet warm.

  • With Premiere CS6 most probably AMD cards will work also.

  • Base principle - NLE first choice! Then - choice hardware. I recommend to choose NLE firstly.

  • @Tomee21

    A CUDA card would be beneficial in your case. But there are also several things that aid in making things go much more smoothly, like an SSD for the boot drive and a seperate RAID for video storage.

  • Yes, I get that, but what's on a dual core i5 @ 3.2Ghz? Does it count anything? Or is it worth to use Premiere at all? If I understand well, only Adobe Premiere could benefit from CUDA, do You recommend to use that software for basic editings or something else?

  • I have a GTX 570 2.5GB and an i7 3930k@4ghz but I choose to leave my CUDA acceleration off because my processor is actually a few seconds faster at rendering and it doesn't even surpass 25% CPU usage. So in a situation like that it wouldn't even matter owning an nvidia or radeon.

  • Cool advice. I am about to ditch my ageing pc which allowed me to try out some bits to see what made a difference. Nvidia cards do make a difference - and the other thing which hugely increased my pc's speed was installing an SSD drive. Anyway good luck - it's an adventure!

  • ATI cards do not have CUDA cores, which is what Premiere uses to optimize real-time effects. For editing on premiere, always get an Nvidia Card. Make sure it has DDR5 memory and also has over 1GB ram, as anything under will not be recognized.

  • A quick question related to this topic: I'm having a quite moderate PC, Dual-Core I5-650 with 4GB DDR3 RAM. I'm planning to change my VGA card to something with a passive cooling (budget-one). My question is is there any difference between a radeon card e.g a 6770 and a nVidia card with CUDA? I'm planing to edit footage from my newly purchased GH2 (maybe it'll be hacked). Just some home made work, nothing really serious. Thank You,

    Tom

  • @VK actually we are talking about the same thing. I was only discussing the 'form factor' of PCI-E as an internal user buss... Thunderbolt (the Optic version) makes high speed 'user' accessible busses obsolete.
    Just my personal view...
  • >kind of makes Thunderboltredundant.

    Nope.
    In fact they use Thunderbolt as intermediary transfer for PCI-E :-)
  • @Macalincag
    there is word that apple may be bringing in a new 'form factor' for the macpro- now that they have Thunderbolt etc... kind of makes PCI-E redundant.
  • @alcomposer

    The faster 6 core will be better for most of your routine tasks and with the hyper threading, the 12 virtual cores serve plenty adequate for a majority of things, since lots of RAM, good card, scratch disks etc. also help to balance things out properly. As for the 12 core... it's a lot more money and having 24 virtual cores is kind of overkill for most people, especially considering the fact that not every applications utilize that many, so I've read. As for FCPX, background rendering it's obviously going to take advantage of those 24 cores, but I highly doubt you'd be pulling your hair out with the smaller, faster 6-core...

    Originally I was planning on getting the aluminum slab but...apple's just not updating it! Anyways, I saw no harm in getting a bang for the buck PC workstation, and with my Macbook I don't have to ditch my fav. O.S. entirely.
  • @Macalincag you telling me that a i7 6core overclocked to ~4GHz is faster than a ~3GHz 12 core? Considering that everything is multicore these days... FCPX background rendering?

    Albeit cheaper I do consed, but I do like owning a slab of aluminium,...
  • I have I think 11 computers in the house, so obviously I needed a new one. And when I recently put a new build together I went for the i7 that has a turbo mode of 3400. Hyperthreading for 8 cores. I use very large heatsinks and silent fans, so I can work on audio as well. I put a $50 ebay Nvidia GT 240 in there, making sure that I had the DDR5 ram, not the DDR3. I used an SSD for the C Drive. I bought 16 gigs of ram, since it was dirt cheap. Seasonic HE Power supply, of course. And a $60 blu-ray burner, thank you Tiger Direct. Scythe and Nexus fans. The whole thing I guess was in the $800 range.
    It runs fast! Everything plays in real time with load of effects. And the computer is completely silent.
    So the first thing I do is to get out GPU-Z and see what really was slowing the other systems down. Ran a bunch of tests on CS5 after rewriting the ini file to enable cuda on my $50 card. And the max out of the card GPU load was 45 percent. Not even halfway up the scale on a $50 eBay card! So I took out the same card, and tried it out in a bunch of other computers: quad intel, quad AMD, core duo intel and so on. Nada. Gotta have that i7 hyperthreading turbo goodness. i7 rocks. It ain't the card.
    My advice, FWIW, get an i7 with turbo AND hyperthreading for 8 virtual cores. Buy 16 gb ram cause it is cheap and you will feel satisfied, finally, with your ram. SSD, check, whizzo!!!
    So that leaves the graphics card. And here, I just don't see spending a lot. Get 1gb DDR5, OK, but even my old DDR3 GT 240 has plenty of cuda in this system.
    Monitor: IPS. Colors have to look the same in different places.
    Power supply: I'm running 350, I never have had an issue, I'm sure 500 would be plenty, especially with Seasonic.
  • Just built one...

    - Intel i7 3930k, overclocked.
    - Asetek 510LC Liquid Cooling System
    - 64 GB Crucial M4 SSD
    - x2 1TB SATA-III 7200rpm, RAID 0.
    - 16GB DDR3 1600MHz Corsair Memory
    - Gigabyte X79-UD3 Intel X79 Mobo
    - 700 watts P.S.
    - GTX 570 HD 2.5GB card

    Grand total was like $2,003. Should serve it's purpose. Cheaper and faster than the Mac Pros... don't know if they're ever going to upgrade them...
  • I thought I saw this link some where, but couldn't find it again. Found it helpful:

    http://www.studio1productions.com/Articles/PremiereCS5.htm
  • With those Gigabyte boards, with the right advice, you can run Mac OS X Lion, as well as Windows 7 if you like. I do! My spec is listed above, along with a link to compatible, tested hardware.

    @jaecjaec Did you use the link I posted to the online PSU wattage calculator? You will soon see I think that it all adds up to 300w not being enough. At least, I did - my computer added up to 650w on that guide. Sure, it is rare that all components will be running at full tilt, but I wanted a stable computer, and at this cost, I can "cost in" the extra juice used.
  • we are actually building somewhat similarly specs machines, heres mine that im building monday and it came out well under $3000, i think if i remember correctly it was all just under $1100

    GIGABYTE GA-Z68P-DS3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 Motherboard

    I7 2600k with Cooler Master Hyper 212

    G.SKILL Sniper 16GB DDR3 1333

    ASUS ENGTX460 GPU

    3 x 1TB samsung spinpoint f3 (plan to add SSD when i have the funds)

    650 Watt Antec PSU

    run of the mill dvd drive

    Rosewill CHALLENGER Black Gaming ATX Mid Tower Computer Case

    LG IPS236 23" monitor
  • Ok...I'm listening to sound advices..how about this config:


    Seasonic 660W 80 Plus Gold ATX12V/EPS12V Power Supply - X-660 SS-660KM -

    SilverStone Sugo SG02B-F ABS/SECC Steel MicroATX Desktop Computer Case -

    Gigabyte DDR3 2133 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s Micro ATX Intel Motherboard - GA-Z68M-D2H -

    Western Digital Caviar Black 2 TB SATA III 7200 RPM 64 MB Cache Bulk/OEM Internal Desktop Hard Drive -

    Logitech Wireless Wave Combo Mk550 With Keyboard and Laser Mouse (920-002555) - Logitech

    Dell UltraSharp U3011 30-inch Widescreen Monitor with PremierColor

    NVIDIA Quadro 2000 by PNY 1GB GDDR5 PCI Express Gen 2 x16

    Samsung Blu-Ray Combo Internal 12XReadable and DVD-Writable Drive

    OCZ Technology 240 GB Agility 3 SSD- 3G SATA 6.0 Gb-s 2.5-Inch Solid State Drive

    Corsair Vengeance Blue 16 GB PC3-12800 1600mHz DDR3 240-Pin SDRAM

    Subtotal: $2,964.97
  • @LucasAdamson Can I ask why you think I need such a large PS? I'm trying to calculate the actual use. Am I overlooking something? SSD: maybe 5w, hard drive another 10w max, CPU rated at 95w and I won't overclock, video card rated at 65w, DVD drive maybe 15w?, CPU fan another 5w, and the chipset at max 50w. Do these components draw more than their rated wattage?