ColorGHear [PART 2]

Vitaliy_Kiselev

But I suggest to write specifications, get some estimates, and may be later use crowdfunding with help of p-v.

shian

Just so you know, my ultimate goal was to turn ColorGHear into an interfaced based plug-in that would basically put the power of a node based, Davinci-like program into your NLE and/or Compositing program. But that requires programming skill way beyond my knowledge. So, since I can't program something like that to help you... you get CGT and CG Pro instead, along with my knowledge in the form of tutorials.

BurnetRhoades

@matt_gh2 here's a little known fact: Magic Bullet started out this same way. The product version, internally, isn't doing anything that can't be done with the built in, basic couple color correction tools in After Effects. This was how it was all prototyped. The operations themselves were then re-coded to tuck all that away behind fewer buttons and dials.

It started out as a personal set of After Effects presets developed by Stu to "take the curse off" the DV footage he was shooting for his personal films while still at ILM. He was still working on "Last Birthday Card", I think it was, at the time.

Working this way makes development more practical. It's a shame folks like zilk disregard power, experience and technique unless it's locked away or wrapped up inside a black box so that they can pretend it's magick.

Me? I'm a proof is in the pudding kind of guy. You've got one more customer in me, Shian.

edit: @shian as if the GHears weren't an amazing bargain for the price, your "Film School" segment looks like it's shaping up nicely. Several of the concepts I was already familiar with but it's nice to see them re-enforced and/or refreshed and clearly demonstrated.

One reaction, just as a future thing, might be to explore some counter-references to some of the bread-and-butter lighting techniques like the styles of Savides and Cronenweth (Jr). They really maximize the practicals at locations and use them rather than fight them. Savides in particular often references lighting locations that the actors then inhabit, though this approach seems stronger when he works with Gus Van Sant versus David Fincher. Their work is still pretty different from that of Khondji shooting a Fincher movie.

Savides is highly influenced by the simple yet striking still photography of William Eggleston (perhaps most evident in his work on Elephant). I'm torn because I love their work but at the same time the slightly slicker, yet still kinda gritty, full-scope style of Dean Cundey from the '70s/80s

They're totally not everyone's style so, no biggy. A future segment that would possibly have more universal appeal is shooting for a workable contrast ratio in scenes with character movement where the director doesn't want to cut. Like, during the course of movement what would be the standard intervals (if there are any) for readings. Those special "realtime" episodes of medical dramas in particular always tend to impress me.

shian

Soon. Not yet available. But CG Pro will work with both the full and Lite versions.

B3Guy

@shian

wait . . . did I miss something? is there a Resolve version available?

matt_gh2

@zilk I've purchased the Color GHears for $50 a few months back, and I'm glad I did. I haven't used the ColorGHears to edit a lot yet, but I've watched most of the tutorials, and I've actually used some of the advice as I'm editing a trailer in Premiere. So the tutorials alone are worth the $50.

After my current project is filmed, I will test ColorGHears to see if it works for me. I expect I will use it. But others have already been using it and report that it has improved their editing.

Technically you may be accurate in saying that a preset/plugin to After Effects can be acheived by an experienced user of that program...but that doesn't mean the Color Ghears presets don't help. Many presets and plugins are created and purchased for many different types of software. This is all normal stuff. And at $50, @shian has really priced this as a bargain.

And he's correct. We have all emailed with various editing questions and he's been kind enough to give us intelligent helpful answers, when rightfully we should just allow him to surf internet porn without being bothered. He's also contributed to many discussions on filming, editing, and new equipment testing.

Bottom line: @shian seems like a solid guy and his ColorGhears seem like a solid product.

Vitaliy_Kiselev

@zilk

Please, learn to behave yourself.

I also wait on PM your background information considering color grading.

zilk

So you think that people with DSLR can't make that type of CG ? you only watch where you want to watch ? Have a lot of people that know what is CG, you just playing with people that don't know how to use that typical basic tool, i made in the past a video explaining about compositing (more strong than prescript plugin) with nuke. D didn't make a plug (prescripted) to take money from people... what you did is not different than magic bullet.

You talk about 3 Way color (you know that you can work point by point on basic program and select the part of the picture to reproduce what you want) you should just show that.

"So as not to be misleading, ColorGHear is a system, and not so much a plug-in"

I'm laughing when i read this, because is actually a package of prescript node (kinda plug-in) so not really a system, we talk about system when you really work on algorithm that construct point by point the skeleton color.

I'm not sure is good to bring false information about how your package work... (more when you use AE to represent that)

People don't need to buy your stuff People are curious, it's normal that they watch your video (human being) and when you talk about it everywhere as a commercial... don't expect any respect from that

Sorry but too much commercial and marketing behind that..

shian

Not being rude, if you've got it all figured out, then why are you bothering? If anybody else was doing what I'm doing with ColorGHear, then nobody would buy it, nobody would watch the tutorials, and everybody would be able to do with DSLR footage what I do, and what I enable CG users to do. I make it simple, fast, powerful, and easy. Every CG user can attest that it is not even remotely the same as MBL, not even close. If it were then people would just spend way too much to get MBL, and I could shut down my site. And then I would get a lot fewer emails, and PMs asking advice, and I could spend more time watching internet porn. And that would make me happy. :)

zilk

@shian

Don't be rude but i know exactly what Precision Grading is... you think you are the only one working on that stuff ? I'm going to repeat again, it doesn't give anything more than what you already can do with a basic edit program... playing with some algorithm color is not a big deal and with few training you can even do better than what your stuff offer (limited by your point)

shian

@zilk then don't buy it. If you've watched the "What is ColorGHear?" video from page 1/ post 1 and you still don't get what Precision Grading is, then move along. Have fun doing what you're doing.

@Chris74 yes, absolutely. The ColorGHear Pro demo was created in Resolve Lite.

zilk

Sorry but i don't see the difference between that and reproduce this with a basic edit program using some color/contrast tool. For me ColorGhear is just a preset like what magic can do, please show me a real difference. Another marketing ?

Chris74

@shian will ColorGHear work with Resolve Light. I'm on a tight budget! By the way, I'm new hear but it's absolutely amazing what you get out of 8-bit.

artiswar

Proof that ColorGHear is more than a set of presets. Upon dissection, you can really see the usefulness and purpose of each GHear and repurpose it to other software. Upon tax time, I'm swiftly purchasing the pro package. Must learn more!

This was a mix of CGT and DaVinci.

TheRuggedAdventurer

Graded with ColorGHear :)

matt_gh2

@shian Heal up quick brother. If you're stuck in bed, just do what Bruce Lee did when on forced bedrest due to injury...he wrote his book, his masterpiece...Tao of Jeet Kune Do...all by dictating to some hot blond in the room (his wife). Assuming you got the blond...and the masterpiece in mind...this could be a real productive time for you. Rock on!

duartix

Cheers Shian. I wish you a speedy recovery.

OzNimbus

Thanks, man! Up until a few weeks ago, I was utterly hopeless with grading... The tutorials are priceless.

matt_gh2

@OzNimbus Grading looks good.

OzNimbus

Texting while driving... grrr. I have no sympathy for that level of stupidity. Get well soon, dude!

Meanwhile, First a/b frame grabs.... test footage for an upcoming music video.... Please be merciful! Used CineGhamma, skin tone LUT, Spectral enhancer & Toney Scott.

spacewig

@shian She's probably a Lynch fan ;) Here's hoping you feel better soon...

Cheers!

B3Guy

@shian

I wish you a complete and speedy recovery, my friend.

shian

On my way to scout a location for a film I'm supposed to be shooting at the end of next month, the vehicle I was a passenger in was struck from behind by a woman texting while driving. I'm okay, but my back is pretty messed up, so I need to be spending a lot of time on my back recuperating instead of hunched in front of my computer. My apologies as it may be a week or so before I can spend the necessary time in front of the computer finishing the tutorials for the ColorGHear Pro release. :(

I'm on my back in bed now typing this on my iPad.

B3Guy

Not sure. I was trying to find official documentation to back up my friend's info, but wasn't able to find any unfortunately. But he is an extremely skilled computer programmer, very knowledgable about these things and hooked into the social circles that keep tabs on this type of news. I for one hope he is right because it sounds like an ingenious and no-nonsense way for encoders to cope with grain.

Riker

@B3Guy when's the H.265 coming out? I don't see any clear info on Wiki...

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