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Cooperative Effort For Shooting a Documentary
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  • Yep, same as PM, just add necessary people.

  • @Vitaliy_Kiselev Thanks. I'll try to figure. Is that through "messages"? @Kihlian Will fix that.

  • Looking like all is going fine here.

    Want to reming that you can make private conversation and add all members who are taking part to inform all at once.

  • @goodempire Hey, you forgot to send it to me ;-)

  • @Gerald Come on it. Send me your email so that I can add you to dropbox. Do you need any more specifics on what kind of footage is required for the trailer?

  • Yep, but its only the german industry and the banks. We have had most of the best educated job employe in europe for a long time. Those working people work now for wadges underneath a value, that has been defined as a social limit by the goverment. The crisis has been made with help from many german banks. Besides, exactly like in the 20th of last century. We see more and more empty shops. "For rent" & "fore sale" has never been seen this often in german citys like in these days. And thats definitely no export. Many small companys will be occupied by big ones or will close.

  • I think poverty is Germany is as bad as in other EU countries, but Germans aren't allowed to complain cause "their economy is growing". Fact is Germans accepted lower wages, where the French will never. Germans accepted later pensions where the French will never. I think the lower class in Germany is in a bad situation due to shrinking wages, and I think the wealthy corporate export-oriented side of Germany needs some good lessons in solidarity with their own workers and with other EU countries, like Greece etc. Germany should lead, but instead it acts cowardly, just like Obama.

  • Great Idea. Count me in 4 Germany. I think people here are not as obviously affected as in other countrys. But some are. Sound like a good challenge.

  • Guys, I tried to send the invites to all of you and emailed all too. In case you didn't get an answer from me, please signal here.

  • Hey... I don't know if you are still looking for people to coop.,but I live in Luxembourg(big finacial and political center of Europe), just between Germany, Belgium and France. I would really like to help with such a project. Please contact me( marcustanson@hotmail.com)for further information.:) enjoy

  • i'm often in brussels if you need some eu footage, but given i don't have too much time, you'd have to tell me what footage you need

  • Sended mp. tanks for accept :D. Regars.

  • @anacrofilosoteca hey man. great to hear! are you shooting with the GH2? Give me your email:) I will add you to the dropbox shared folder. And we can talk more about the idea and what we may expect from Argentina. I've been to some favelas in Rio and Caracas, so I know the deal. Welcome on board.

  • Im going to get a cirugy in the next weeks. If i feel better enough before that i will take some shoots of marginals cities in argentina wich shows the results of neoiberalism during the 90´here. I mean cities that has been created by people who losed their jobs when the open economy has destroyed factorys where they worked. I dont know the english translation for this kind of cities, we call it here "villas" i hve noticed that in brasil its called "Favelas". Anyway, if u need another specific portrait of Argentina, im in. Regards.

  • Guys, I'm going to travel some 800-1000 miles next week along East Coast to shoot some industrial decay. It would be great if we could start collecting footage next week and finish before May 1. I've created a shared folder on dropbox but I need your emails to send the invites. If you have any questions about the general concept before going out to shoot, please ask. Thanks for your willingness to risk.

  • @ahbleza Hahha. Sure. Though I don't think we are just looking for sht in general and the shtty side of capitalism. What's needed is the visual side of the Crisis. And what could be symbolically interpreted that way.

  • @GOODEMPIRE I wish I had my camera with me when I saw a group of rats in the NY Subway, but I guess that's not a new problem. I'll be shooting on Staten Island tomorrow.... certainly happy to shoot in NJ and some of the less salubrious areas of NY or Queens. PM me for contact info.

  • @ahbleza Hey bro! Any ideas on illustrating the infrastructural decay in NJ and NY area? I was thinking about Camden, but it's been there for years and it's more about crime and corruption rather than deindustrialization/foreclosures/financial burdens. We can shoot with 2 cameras if necessary.

  • @ttancredi No problem. We don't really need a lot of footage from each participant at this stage. Just some establishing shots and some closeups. Not much. This is only to make the idea look truly universal. I was shooting today and will be shooting more tomorrow. I appreciate your contribution and find your ideas very interesting (especially food chain). We kind of know the main idea, what's missing is the smart and unique way to turn it into a story. Meanwhile I got some exciting news which I'll share in a different post.

  • Hey! I'm not i Brazil at the moment, But I'll be shooting there (and in venezuela) from may. at the moment in Bologna. I have some footage from the somewhat naive-hipster prostests and cinema-university ocupation that happened here while berlusconi was getting out. Someparts of it can still have its strenght given that Bologna is symbolic leftwing town in italy. they are mostly in BW though.

    Pitty I didn't shoot anything while in S petesburg.

    I like the idea of shooting food cycle. I was already thinking about starting to dig a bit more about the food transportation world in Brazil. ( we don't have trains and it's mainly all carried by truckdrivers.

    I thought about taking some key products and showing the whole process it goes through(as well). but it definetelly more interesting having a coffe made off brazilian beans been drunk in Finland than in Brazil itself. or showing a salmon from chile selling for cheaper ( or more expensive) than norweagian ones in scandinavian land (I've seen it once). Not really arguments, but definetelly a lot to develop when it comes to cross-country food distribution. Maybe once we know who's in we can develop it. maybe an Idea would be having these global massive world cycle as oposed to micro economical enviroments, of say a peasant in brazil who eats mainly what's produced around who ends up having a miserable life to sustain this strange economic structure. The end of oil, transport future alternatives or future alternatives to food diets. There is room for exoticism, its history. As well as space for portraiting potato tobacco and coffe going to europe for the first time. delicacy. Well, definetelly a lot of subjects that would be nice to explore in a cross-country doc. my scketch was primarily focused on cultural (historical) and political management problems primally as oposed to a broader structure perspective. ( which I find to be more urgent in Brazil) but they are definetelly more than corelated and would be nice focusing on a universal economical problem. I'll only have proper time to invest research and think about this in June and mainly next semester ( when I intend living around São Paulo). For now, maybe next week I'll be able to escape from town and shoot in the country side -italy- ( although I'm sure I won't be able to shoot for longer than a day). So not sure I'll be of much help at the moment. would be happy to see a brain-storm sequence. I'll come back later with a clearer mind.

  • I'm going out to shoot more tomorrow. Will post here later.

  • @GOODEMPIRE I'm in Spain right now. Count on me.

  • Ok. So here is the deal. I'm still thinking about the possible story arc and I encourage you guys to throw in your 20 cents. At this point we may want to follow the path of Globalization and take a look at the US supermarket with groceries and products from all over the world (Italy, Mexico, Greece, etc). This may (or may not) give us the vehicle to tie different stories together. In the most primitive way we can meet a worker in New Jersey who can no longer afford buying products from Italy, and then, say, a farmer in Italy (Mexico ...whatever ) who is facing problems because international markets are going down and domestic consumption is low and then go to Greece or anywhere else. Here are the participating countries at this point: US, Canada, Pakistan, Mexico, Brazil (hopefully), Finland, Ukraine (hopefully) I was also thinking about finding a unique product with various countries involved in its production cycle, which might serve as this transition tool. Regardless of that... There is still plenty of time to think. What I need now — to sell the idea and get support is the following (corrections and changes are totally welcome):

    1-2-3 minutes worth of raw footage from every country. including: — 4-5 generic landmark shots to set up the location (wide, MCU, CU) — 5-10 shots of the particular place affected by the economic crisis. It could be a farm, a factory, a community center, a warehouse, a school, virtually anything. Nobody can get better access to such a character than the cinematographer living in the same area. — 5-10 shots of the person who you may suggest as your story's main character. Here we need closeups, not only wideshots. Maybe extreme closeups (hands of the working man, eyes, faces etc). The person should be looking right into the camera and standing still. No talking.

    footage of strikes/riots/protests will also be of great help

    each shot 7-12 seconds

    that's it. we may exchange footage through dropbox or other public servers. I'll then edit the trailer in full coordination with the team. After that we may start thinking about making it a real documentary. From my experience pitching with video is a far more promising way to reach your goal.

    Now back to my research. Jump in. Share what you think.

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