GF2 Stable Settings

Rambo

Jay, if you want in camera playback stick with the one posted by Stonebat on the first page, 2nd post.

JayB38

Ah so many choices - eoshd's, pvdog's, videohq's and driftwood's Cluster V6. I shall test it some more.

@Ebacherville is cluster v6 is the winner, in your opinion?

Ebacherville

been using cluster v6 on my GF and GH bodies, very happy with it, did a side by side shoot same lens the Pani 14mm f2.5 and the GF2 and GF3 are softer than the gh2 but not bad looking , looks like good quality footage.. only looks bad when your shooting the same scene and cutting it with GH2 stuff.. then you can really see the difference.. It's about the same as when I'm cutting GH2 stuff with our Pani HMC80 ENG style AVCHD cameras. Those are $2-3k cameras.

stoney

@PatrickGF

Mine ain't a patch. It's simply a setting. Patch implies software release. PTool would be a patch. Just wanna avoid confusion :)

I don't have much experience with B4 lens, but I heard a doubler makes it deeper DOF. Without the doubler, it'd be shallower DOF, and I wonder if that made it more dreamy look.

PatrickGF

I've been using Stonebats patch because it's a little more stabile on my Sandisk Ultra Class 10 cards.

I'm using a Canon B4 lens with doubler and have not been happy with the jello even with a tripod. So this weekend I tried using it in ETC mode without the Doubler handheld. Here's the video:

Also, noticed I get a soft dreamy look (see last frame) when shooting wide open (f1.7). This does not happen with the doubler on. Would love to understand that better if anyone can help explain.

nachelsoul

I tested the Driftwood´s Cluster v6 Nebular in the GF2 with a c-mount 25mm Switar lens. This is not a sharp lens, not the best to test the fabulous Nick´s work, but hope you find it "alternative".

Test SWITAR 25mm f/1.4 with GF2 Cluster v6 from Ignacio Sanchez on Vimeo.

AlbertZ

@alessiorock Very good footage, alessiorock, very sharp even with cheap c mount lens ;)

alessiorock

GF2 with Driftwood's Cluster v6 'DREWnet' - Lens is quite always Canon 50mm (100mm) FD mount (w/adaptor) - f1.8. Sometimes a c-mount lens Canon VF25mm (not allowing infinity focus). Shot in AVCHD at 1080. Edited with Edius without changing anything in colours and luminance, exported at 23.9fps: is this the reason why there are some problems with the movements.. right?)

Let me know what do you think :) Do you REALLY recommend me to use the GOP Variation "Nebular"?

p.s.: it's me singing and playing guitars.

tomech

@Rambo will do testing, thx for info anyway.

Rambo

@tomech, yes i know about the ptools setting, i change mine to 2fps for timelapse, but i'm sure there is some past history with changing mjpeg to 25 or 24p that makes it unusable, i just can't find the info at the moment. I think you will find there is frame skipping or something.

tomech

@Rambo I dunno, silly of me I just went in there and changed it :) Beginners luck or incompetence? Attatched you will find settings I modified in ptool. Also, clip info from VLC concerning recorded Motion-JPEG file (sorry for Polish interace, hopefully you can make something out of it). Quicktime clip info says the same. Or maybe I don't understand anything of that, which is likely as well ;)

Rambo

@tomech motion-jpeg is 30fps and can't reliably be changed to 25fps as far as i know. If you found a way let us know how.

tomech

@subco, @gameb Guys, thx for the advice. Eventually I went for Cluster_v6 Nebular. Modified it a bit to record 1080p25 in AVC. Also modified the Motion-JPEG setting. Originally its a 2k frame at 30fps, so again I changed for 1080@25. Didn't touch other settings in any of the two. I checked the MTS with Streamparser and yes it is 25p, which is great. While doing some test recording with Motion-JPEG the camera froze after pressing stop and the file didn't save. However second try went well. Hopefully I'll find some time for some decent testing next week. Also I'm planning to do the same mods on cake 2.3 and check for stability. Now - back to work.

gameb

try cake 2.3, works amazingly stable and over 50mbps

tomech

@subco Thx for the info. Thought u could actually force the progressive mode somehow by hacking. I'll give the Motion-JPEG a try. Transcoding the footage is not a biggie either. I have to do it anyway because the modified AVCHD crashes Avid ;) My regular workflow goes like this: Adobe Encoder => DNxHD => Avid MC via AMA or fast import. Works fine.

tomech

Can't seem to find any hack making the GF2 able to shoot at 1080p25. Anything around 32Mbps or above would be great. I'm new to this hacking thing so forgive my ignorance. Please help.

nachelsoul

@unconsenting thanks for your info. I supposed that the video out was outside the CUSTOM setups.

unconsenting

I believe that any time you change a setting in a custom mode, you need to save that custom mode again before you turn it off. Otherwise, the next time you turn your camera on, it will default to the last time you saved that custom setting. These are the steps you need to take:

*Turn on camera and go to the custom mode you want (example: Custom 1) *Then, go to Menu>Setup>Video Out>Pal *Before turning off the camera, go to Menu>Custom>Cust. Set Mem. and select 1, 2, or 3 to save it *Turn off camera and back on and you will see that it is saved to that custom set *Reformat card

This is how all changes are made to custom modes. That is the purpose of the custom modes, not have to change multiple settings every time. Just save them to a custom and recall it.

nachelsoul

@subco, yes I did format the card as Driftwood instructions. I´ll try to explain what happened: At first I tried unsuccesfully to change to the Pal version, but it was imposible cause the card was already formated in NTSC, I could change the Video out to Pal but the camera didn´t let me to record, all of this was made in CUSTOM mode, also I formated the card in CUSTOM but it did not work. After I changed to Aperture Priority, I followed the Driftwood instructions (Change country, switch off, switch on, format card) and finally I was able to record in Pal. Don´t know why Custom Mode can not format the camera in your country setting, this was only posible in Aperture priority and manual modes. Pardom my english, hope I have explain it well. I tried the possibility to have diferent country video out in Aperture and Custom and it was imposible as Vitaly stated. Thanks

nachelsoul

@driftwood @subco and Vitaly thanks for replies. I have been mad with this cause even with your tips I could not do it. At last I found that I was doing this in CUSTOM MODE, after I changed to Aperture every thing was fine. EDIT: In Custom Mode the video out was NTSC, you have to change it there also to keep Pal in all modes. Thanks for your invaluable work.

Vitaliy_Kiselev

I'm actually interested as to why wouldn't be possible to record 25fps and 30fps on the same card. In tape I understand.

Because of AVCHD format. You can't have it both PAL and NTSC.

driftwood

@nachelsoul You have to format your card for each country specification. You can't record on NTSC then switch to PAL and record straight to the same card. Try two different cards. Change country setting, switch off, switch on, format. Use card. Its the same for all settings. :-)

nachelsoul

@driftwood sorry I did not fully explain it. I change the video out to Pal, and when I press the record button it show me a message "exceed file number". I change back to Ntsc and it records and playback fine. I change to Pal and again the message, I switch off the camera in Pal, and switch on back again and the video out change to Ntsc. Thanks for your reply, I know your time is precious, sorry again. Hope not to disturb. Thanks

driftwood

@nachelsoul Switch your camera to PAL mode in-camera.

nachelsoul

I´m trying to load the Cluster v6 6 GOP Variation 'Nebular in GF2, but I can not record in PAL (25). It only lets me to record in NTSC. Is there something I should change in Ptools to get PAL recording?. Thanks

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