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UK: Squeezed Britain
  • Focus is on one group that has been particularly hit - those in work but below middle income. With an average household income of only £20,500 after tax, theirs is a daily struggle to keep up with the rising costs of essentials and to meet goals such as saving or buying a home.

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    Full report: http://www.resolutionfoundation.org/media/media/downloads/Squeezed_Britain.pdf

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  • There was a very prescient capitalist called James Goldsmith who foretold of the social effect on the UK of globalisation and the disruptive entry of over a billion Asian workers to the labour pool. Ross Perot gave similar warnings in the US before selling out.

    The only thing keeping the UK afloat at the moment is the financial sector. But this currently depends for its income on balance sheet fraud, regulatory arbitrage and an out-of-control OTC derivatives market. These are not socially desirable means to motor an economy. As global deleveraging gathers pace, this sector will become more a liability than profit centre (if it isn't already).

    I agree the UK can rebalance towards high tech manufacturing. But it will be incredibly difficult now as others are racing ahead. And there is much pain ahead. Relying on finance turns out to have caused the most grotesque misallocation of capital and labour in the UK in centuries.

  • Just remember though, that the UK is still the 7th largest manufacturer in the world. ARM anyone? However, the amount of UK jobs in our lines of manufacture are comparatively low, due to the markets we operate in. In terms of pounds and pence, we're still a powerhouse.

    Being one of a few global financial capitals also gives the UK a healthy GDP. A GDP per capita that is ranked about 22nd in the world, compared to the powerhouses that are China (90th) and India (127th). Yes, there's market control in these new age powerhouses, but with GDP/capitas so low, ultimately spells poor social conditions.

    The chances of us becoming a Malta in 20 years are slim to none. If anything, there will be a better global balance - which is a good thing. Capitalism is broken, but it might not have to go out with a bang. Perhaps it can lead to a stalemate and offer a road to society being the new capital.

  • I sure will. Hehe.

  • @stonebat Your son is smarter than me!Tell that to him :)

  • @Mihuel

    Great post. This sums up, for me, why imagination is important. Not just knowledge, expertise, logic and systems.

  • @Vitaliy_Kiselev

    Same problem. Efficiency of any serious project is in big question. And under serious I mean Moon or Mars.

    Of course I agree with you. But is it in human nature is not overcome problems? The conquest of space is an idea, the same as the ability to start a fire by early man. If we learn to live beyond Earth we can create a better political systems than those which we know from Earth. We have to start with small steps, such as: elevator space, orbital power station.... Is economic efficiency is to send telescopes into orbit? From the perspective of the average person probably will not, but whether from the perspective of such a thinker as you are? Vitaliy, I am a utopian, I dream of a better world and I think that as long as thehuman will be subject to forces such as other animals, as long as we stuck in this shit. This is my "religion".

  • Did anyone see the documentary "Britain's Trillion Pound Horror Story" very intresting insight into a possible solution, if I remember rightly.. by reducing public sector spending which would allow invstment in business and using flat taxes, in much the same way that Japan has to boost spending. Ecconomics was never my strong point but it did sound interesting.

  • I love my 3 yo son singing,

    Today is my favorite day God made it in a special way I like tomorrow and yesterday But today is my favorite day

    Tomorrow is surely gonna be worse than today. So why not enjoy today? :)

  • Yes. I dictatorship gets things done.

    If the dictatorship is intelligent and has good aims, it is always far more preferable to a democratically elected bureaucrat.

  • Some of us miss the good old days. I'm sure some of us, possibly all of us, might miss today.

  • Then a long term strongman dictatorship?

  • "Who implements and executes the new plan?"

    This is another problem in the west. Should a government bring about grand changes, they only have 4 years and if it isn't deemed popular, they get thrown on the scrap.

    Long term change is almost impossible to do, and so yet again, the nation stagnates and flip flops between two politically convenient extremes.

  • I think a real challenge is finding a better solution instead of finger pointings. But who defines "better"? Who implements and executes a grand new plan?

    I doubt the technology will save us from this mess. Maybe it's not coincident that sh!t began hitting the fan on the verge of more radical scientific and technological breakthroughs at unprecedented acceleration. Sorta destructive creation?

  • Consumerism is the UK is the steady process of giving away our wealth to China. In 20 years the UK will be a poor nation with as much significance in the world as Malta, and China a super power. Because we used to be a well educated country, we could design and export, we could provide services and build meaningful companies. Our computer industry eventually let the US soundly beat it in almost every area apart from ARM's mobile chips, but we had a good run at it (BBC Micro, Acorn, Amstrad, etc.)

    The education system in the UK is now failing, and economic cuts will make it even worse. Whilst our military and technology sectors stagnate, China's are growing. Kids in Asia take education more seriously because knowledge is directly linked to social standing. In the UK something odd happened with popular culture and now knowledge is linked to nerds, whilst lack of knowledge is linked to a higher social class - celebrities.

    On a train going from a small town in Japan I noticed school kids reading text books on the way home. This would never happen in the UK, not since the 50's has such a studious attitude been common in the UK.

    I feel that the last 3 generations are mesmerised by consumer goods, warm sofas, television and comfortable office jobs.

    We have not yet found a way to break out of that lifestyle, which ultimately leads nowhere.

    I became a filmmaker to avoid the office lifestyle and I tried to break out of 'the system', it was a high risk 'all or nothing' approach and I am glad I did so, rather than do what so many people do - steady job, family, house, then death - not just of the individual but of a nation.

  • This idea could be the conquest of space

    Same problem. Efficiency of any serious project is in big question. And under serious I mean Moon or Mars.

  • Energy costs are rising, and the European Union governments not doing anything to improve this condition. On the contrary, increase excise taxes on fuel because in this way they can squeeze out of the taxpayers more money. The success of the European Union, in the last century, we owe thanks to low cost energy. I know that I will repeat, but the World West lacks the guiding ideas. This idea could be the conquest of space. We need to invent new technologies, even those that now seem as if they were in the field of SF. This is a sensible future, but this system can only see a real gain, calculated over several years rather than tens. Apparently the sky is the limit, but in light of the political systems that limit reaches only a few hundred meters.

  • Invest in robot technology and 3D printers

    Won't work. 3D printers are extremely inefficient at any significant scale. And good sturdy ones cost a fortune. For a reason.

    Same with robotics. Manufacturing robots had been made for years and are efficient for many tasks. Man like creatures that could work ala humans won't happen in near future.

    Generally, problems of current system are exactly reverse. System tries to invent unnecessary jobs and keep high work hours count. If not the big military forces system had been destroyed already due to inability to hold enough energy and other resources.

    Yep. Energy and other resources, as well as technologies are real cause of prosperity and efficiency rise. So, moving factories to China had been not bad move, as it solved many problems. They found new people who'll be responsible for getting resources (and you'll control money and goods flow, this is much more easy), they also provided technologies, so existing resources can be used efficiently with large rising nations.

  • How to get UK back on track.... Invest in robot technology and 3D printers. The ability to manufacture stuff without a factory full of slave labour is the next step forward for capitalism.

    However it does raise the question of what to do with jobs. Already in UK, one of main first jobs for young people (service till at supermarket) is obsolete because of self service machines.

    The need to have a talent that premium market can utilise has never been greater - otherwise face being enslaved or unemployed.

  • @Duncanario Germany, the year 1933, nobody was nostalgic. :-)

  • I hate nostalgia, I hate it desperately. I long for the days when nobody was nostalgic.

  • @Eoshd Agree totally but in the 80s peoples regular existence was boring and shit also but the difference is that we have become consumer slaves and think we cant exist without it...and younger generations have become more reliant in it (The shit you own ends up owning you...fight club has a point!).

    In 70/80s we didn't have such "luxuries" as buying property or 3 cars per family but we got by ;-) And true communities and neighbours were stronger back then...bugger me we only had little wire fences between our gardens and watched out for each other now we have fortresses and don't even know each others names!

    I could go on but its going off topic. I say either adapt with the times or you don't. We have had a good run but made a wasted opportunity of it so time to face the music. Simple as really.

  • @Mimirsan

    System changed.

    If you remove goverment benefits and bank stumulus system will collapse.

    Just look at the charts.

    Right now goverments have three targets.

    Get free resources, in fact restoring colonies. Same things will be used to distract people. And you need to distract people if you plan to remove most social benefits made in 20th century. Removing benefits is necessary as they want to make global corporations and banks empire. Much more efficient, one that replaces it's parts instantly. Do not work for specified salary, have problems, boom, you are moved to less developed parts of the empire and will be happy to work just for food. And people who want to risk their lifes in persuite of better life of their childrens will be used hard, much harder than today.

  • @Mimirsan they need holidays because their regular everyday existence is so utterly boring and shit.

    In the 80's we still had pubs, communities and neighbours... Remember them!?

    Nearly all consumer spending is because of various social reasons, both in terms of happiness and standing.

    People buy because they are miserable. Nobody needs 5 holidays a year if they are enjoying daily work and life back home.

  • @itimjin Thats insulting! Im not tory matey...Im more of a anarchist if anything! ;-)

    @vitaliy Wasnt just because we had to work just that we could not afford it. :-)

    My point is my family (like many others) worked hard to get by in the 80s yet we still could not afford a holiday....wasnt a big deal. Many brits cant even survive without a holiday per year these days.

    I was brought up on if you didnt have the money you dont have it to spend. Too many just spend and dont have to money to but dumping it on the credit card is okay. Food on the table and roof over your head are main priorities.

    Eoshd "Because people are stuck in shitty office jobs, they come home tired and sit in front of the TV. There is too much of that in Britain."

    Too true our dear government likes it that way ;-)