Edelkrone FocusONE

oscillian

http://www.edelkrone.com/focus-one/

Seems like a new take on the subject.

Pechente

Is this a standard 0.8 gear or something of their own? Unfortunately their focus gears are really pricey.

oscillian

http://www.edelkrone.com/followfocus/

They keep on adding stuff. Now with animation. Slick!

klem007

mmmmm pretty, looks better then my trusmt ff =)

last_SHIFT

Preorder for $199 not bad

deturbanator

It seemed to me they were implying this was a friction follow focus...? Maybe it was just an animation thing they didn't add gears.

oscillian

Yep, it looks like friction in the animation. It might be a dual system that can do both friction and gears?

soundgh2

Gears look to be 0.8 and made of alu and rubber to cut to size - priced at $40-00 or $100-00 for 3

http://www.edelkrone.com/e-store/28-edelkrone-lens-gear-8680177980255.html

jasonp

As @soundgh2 said It's 0.8, I've pre-orderded one, hopefully production won't be late, more details when I get it.

As I already own the prototype pocket-rig, and had the chance to check Edelkrone last year at NAB2011, I have no doubts on the quality of the product. I would normally go for the focusplus, but I have a rule not buying stuff that cost >150£ if I don't have the chance to use or try for myself, if only I could also visit NAB this year :(

The only problem I see is the absence of adding a whip or crank, but for the price, as a back-up FF, I really can't complain (and who knows, they might decide to add a whip port before production).

They also told me they're working on new handles.

soundgh2

I ordered the monitor mount and umming and ahhing over wether I really do need the Pocket Rig - looks great though - how long are the rails - I assume as the unit is 14cm wide they're 2x6 inches? Already have a stubby rig for FF ... must spend lol

last_SHIFT

After a 2 week+ delay, my FocusOne shipped out from Ankarra yesterday - should arrive in Shanghai by tomorrow. Will keep you guys posted with my thoughts. If anything the customer service has been excellent as they were very good about putting it on priority status - after my daily badgering :-)

last_SHIFT

@jasonp

Did yours ship out yet?

rockroadpix

I like the look of it a lot and that seems to go towards ease of single operator (no focus puller) use. However, it seems that two points of contact to the rods would really be beneficial for solid contact...

jasonp

@last_SHIFT Mine shipped yesterday and arrived today (1 day shipping to UK, DHL, fortunately no customs), but unfortunately it's defective. I've contacted them, and once I've sorted it out I'll let you know..I can upload some pics if you're interested, I could use a T2i since it's closer to a GH2 size wise, for comparison. Just let me know..

-Update, uploaded some pics

soundgh2

What are the lens gears like ? Are they a fixed size ? Ta for the pics

jasonp

The gear is actually a halfinchrails one, and it comes in a fixed-large- size, which you can then cut appropriately. I already have too many gears (I have a couple of shoot35 ones if anyone is interested btw), so didn't get to order any from edelkrone..

here is a link to the fat zip gear.. http://www.robertwhite.co.uk/shop-by-brand/half-inch-rails/half-inch-rail-fat-zip-tie-focus-gears.html

soundgh2

Ahh nice not seen those before, cheers.

last_SHIFT

@jasonp

Thanks for the pics and the quick update - mine is out for delivery today. Its a shame about the defect - Mert told me the delays were because of testing and QC issues - hope they weren't rushed out. How solid is it on the rod?

jasonp

Yeah, Mert told me the same, QC, sweet irony..I don't want to comment on anything before I get my hands on a proper one (then test it with different rods, etc), it wouldn't be fair or wise. The only thing I can say is that it's lighter than I expected, which -for what I need it for- is good.

eekAmouse

Hey jasonp, just curious as to what was wrong with your unit; Received mine yesterday and right off the bat there was something very large loose in the focus knob(of which I'm guessing can only be accessed by removing the Edelkrone logo). In any case, the gears slip and there's no control whatsoever over a large portion of it. Customer service has been great and I've been very impressed with their Modula5, so this was something of a downer, considering I pre-ordered the FocusOne in March and was hoping to use this on a project this weekend. E-mailed Mert with a link to a video highlighting the issue and I'd like to give them the benefit of the doubt, but in the end I may just look into getting the Letus or Cinevate FF because I need something like yesterday and can't wait until sometime in June for the next batch if they're completely out of stock and can't ship a replacement.

jasonp

Edelkrone reviewed the video I sent them, and they will be replacing it as soon as they have the next batch (end of May), they're also letting me keep this one (although it's pretty unusable, good for spares). Mert has been really helpful.

@eekAmouse, in my case, the entire knob is misaligned on the shaft (and you can really notice it when turning the knob) and the gearbox is making noise while having considerable play, my guess is that the gearbox is messed up as well. The exterior, side-part (with the logo on it) is supposed to turn, as part of the design, and that's why it feels loose, if you're referring to that. You can "clip" it off and check it for yourself, it clips on/off quite easily, and has 2 small weights in order to keep the Edelkrone logo always the right way up. So you ordered the gears as well? And they slip?

At this price, I wouldn't compare it to a cinevate, or letus FF, but more to the d-focus, RJ, Gini, etc..If you need a heavy duty FF you'll have to pay a bit more and we both know it, maybe try the focusplus (although if you need it "yesterday" you might consider going with a "tested" solution, as you already said), I needed a "light" one for the pocket rig, the Shoot35, although great, is messing with its balance, too heavy.

eekAmouse

Thanks jasonp, now that you mention it, I've got some misalignment as well. The gears on the lens are fine, in fact they kind of remind me of the Zacuto gears, but I meant a gear in the gearbox either broke off or came out of alignment because I can turn the focus knob, but nothing will happen on the business side with the focusing disc, however the gears do "catch" at some point, but in its current state the FF is unusable and the backlash now measured in the inches not mm.

I didn't know that the logo could be detached(I'll have to take a look at it when I get home) but yes I understood that the side of the focus knob spins, it's just that something in is rattling around in there and I could only assume the only way to get in there would be to remove the logo somehow.

eekAmouse

A little unsure as to what you mean when you said you can "clip" off the exterior side part with the logo; Just by looking at it, it looks like that part is recessed under the edge of the outer housing and I've tried fitting a plastic wedge under there to see if I could pop it out and off.

last_SHIFT

Got mine a couple of days ago and so far so good, no major hiccups. The only thing is the marking disk was loose and kept falling off - nothing a strip of teflon couldn't fix. The attachment to one rod is fairly sturdy for light use but it has shifted a couple of times. Overall build quality is good the unit is fairly ligjt and goes great with the Pocket Rig and Handstrap. Got the gears too and yes they are like the Zacuto ones. For the preorder price of $199 I would say I'm happy with it. The guys at Edelkrone are great and they will continue to refine it like they have everything else. Been using it with the 5D3 haven't used with GH2 yet.

eekAmouse

Okay managed to get the outer disc out, and indeed it was the two weights inside that had become unglued and were rattling around in there. Put some Loctite glue on them and they seem to be okay. Knob is indeed misaligned and I was able to separate it from the rest of the unit. When I inserted the knob and gear back in, I was able to get a snug fit and it seems like it all is well; however if the knob encounters a sticky spot on the focus ring or that particular focus ring in general is a little difficult to turn, the gears connected to the knob separates from contact with the gears in the housing and at that point I've got a free wheeling focus knob. I still sent them a video outlining my issues, but I'll wait and see whether I'll keep this or not.

jasonp

Glad to hear that yours is ok @last_SHIFT, I took it apart after they agreed to exchange it as well @eekAmouse but it's really messed up, as you said, the backlash is about 1cm. At least yours is kinda working, but still, I expect better from Edelkrone, hope they'll honor their warranty. It's a shame they have QC issues because the design is really versatile.

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