@johnbrawley Great Test John.. WOW!!!!!!!!!! My OOH MY this BMC is a beast the DR in this Baby is insane for that price point, resolution is right on not too sharp just right.. very filmic I've worked with alexa footage very similar WOW!!!! again for less than the 5D MarkIII we getting that quality I don't know what else we can ask for... this cam is perfect. That little Moire is really nothing people the audience will never pay attention to such small detail I've seen many hollywood budget movies with moire no big deal, remember stories sales. With that said I'm all in, gonna place my order beginning of August. With footage looking like this I don't see the need to go out buy a RED Cam, Canon C300, 1Dc, C500, or Alexa I'm not Knocking those other camera's they are all great in their own right. Even as a beginner with Davinci Resolve John pulled a really nice grade imagine what a season colorist can do. I'm soo excited people BlackMagic has bridged the gap between the Pro market & Indie market.

@johnbrawley

So the news is that the camera won't ship with an AA filter. They may make a user install able one later. For now you get all the resolution.

That's fine with me. If it's only moire-ing on really fine patterns like mesh chairs, I'd rather have all the resolution. I've even seen moire on Red footage in theaters. It's just something inherent to digital capture and viewing. The F35 even had pretty bad moire from what I've heard.

So the news is that the camera won't ship with an AA filter. They may make a user install able one later. For now you get all the resolution.

JB.

my vote is to put it in, it's hard to say without seeing comparison, but I think the camera has resolution to spare (at least if its to eliminate that moire)

Edit: furthermore, after seeing the before/after tests eoshd did with the olfpf removal, I don't see a reason not to have it!

Ability to turn on and off would be nice.

Otherwise half the population will be dissatisfied putting it in, the other half dissatisfied if it's left out.

The ability to turn on for the SDI would be nice .. record clean in RAW .. AA compressed for client rushes previews.

Perhaps they can develop their updater similar to Vitaliy's pTools .. so we can 'compile' in filters

Hah .. edit .. I never realised the cameras have a physical filter .. I thought it was refering to post processing

The noise is pretty accurately represented on the vimeo clip. So is the moire. Currently the prototype doesnt have an AA filter and they're thinking about if it should have one. What do you guys prefer ?

JB.

DR is better than even a hacked GH2, but yeah, crazy moire on the back of the black computer chair. It means there will be busy lines on screen if actor puts on wrong shirt for shoot.

Would like to have a look at the ungraded footage.

I see the noise .. it's quite fine in texture. I didn't see the moire until you pointed it .. I'd love to know what the box is .. looks like the moire is a reflection of the couch or something on it, or in the room. It would be good to know what the surface of that box is.

Okay, I'll be John Lennon to your Paul McCartney:

Am I the only one who sees the noise? Granted, it could just be the vimeo compression.... hard to tell.

And peep the crazy Moire on that black box near the window @ 0:21 (Turns out it's a computer chair)

But good news: Doesn't seem to be any crazy rolling shutter issues. Then again, he didn't really shake the camera in this. And the DR is very nice... not spectacular, but nice. So far, so good.

@bwhitz

Yes, it's a bit distracting :-)

Pool Shark (Footage)

This is the moving footage for the little test shoot I did with director Ben Phelps. He wanted to try out some visual ideas for another project he’s doing so it was a chance for me to steal some shot for you guys to see !

As mentioned previously, I kept lighting very simple. It’s a Kino diva in mixed grill, and a 1×1 Litepanel in daylight mode.

I also had a few pracs on in the background.

Lenses were the lovely Zeiss Compact Primes supplied by my good friends at Lemac. The 18mm for the wide, 35mm for the panning shot of Casey at the table and most of the closer shots were the 50mm or the 85mm.

Exposures were mostly T2.8 or T8 for when I was looking back at the windows. Shooting at ISO800 to ProRes 422 (HQ) in film mode.

Post on this was that I pulled the clips into FCPx. I threw a quick edit together of some shots, then XML exported to Resolve V9. In Resolve, I did a grade using single nodes and primaries only. Rendered ProRes 422 (HQ) back into FCP and then exported to 264 for upload here to Vimeo.

Enjoy.

Source: http://johnbrawley.wordpress.com/2012/07/27/pool-shark/ & http://vimeopro.com/johnbrawleytests/blackmagic-cinema-camera/video/46460980

I think the main problem here is many people are acting like they know for certain BM wont ship out on time. They do have 5 days left. Whether it is likely or not that they will ship out within these 5 days, I don't know. I just think people should wait until they are actually late on their shipments before making claims that it is bad business to not inform their customers if it will be shipping late. Because if it is going to ship in the next 5 days, then they have no need to. Now if they don't, then there is a problem. I have nothing fore or against BM, but I just feel we should wait until they are actually late before anything. I do understand the concern though, I have pre-ordered many items before, and if they ship late, it does make me mad, but I until it is actually late, I can't say a damn thing.

To those of you who pre-ordered and are waiting for it, best of luck. I hope it arrives on time, and hope its all its cracked up to be.
To those who are waiting like I am, lets see what they can do once they get their cameras.

I think we just have to wait and not get personal with anyone on this matter. BM has decided to market it in a certain way. But I think they don't not comprehend exactly that marketing a cinema camera and some capture card are very different. They might not understand that the emotional background is very very different.

Now it is perhaps not there fault that people have pre ordered in droves. Perhaps it is the fault of the resellers. But not showing footage before launch could bite them very hard if it does not meet the insane expectation that people have put in it. People won't look at resellers etc, if anything is not as what most preordering think it would be. They are going to turn on BM. One possible pitfall could be the rolling shutter etc. You never know.

For now I will just wait an see. I sincerely hope this camera is as good as it seems on paper. If it is not, then BM will just have suffer the consequence. It will be utterly there fault.