Color grading https://www.personal-view.com/talks/categories/color-grading/p5/feed.rss Wed, 19 Jun 24 10:07:02 +0000 Color grading en-CA Why I Love Davinci Resolve https://www.personal-view.com/talks/discussion/7613/why-i-love-davinci-resolve Fri, 26 Jul 2013 22:51:13 +0000 B3Guy 7613@/talks/discussions Hi, All!

Just thought I'd share some color grading that I've been fiddling with. I shot a bunch of footage at the local carnival a month back, and now I'm working on grading it for one of my personal music video projects.

I've used my own take on a bleach bypass process that simultaneously adds the teeniest touch of blue to the lows, then with a couple more nodes, I've tweaked exposure and of course that nasty red/orange/yellow/green zone of color (that seems to always make or break skintones) has had some subtle adjustments.

Lemme know what you think!

http://www.flickr.com/photos/68917223@N05/sets/72157634804640007/with/9375308962/

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Project settings for DNXHD from Atomos Samurai https://www.personal-view.com/talks/discussion/7537/project-settings-for-dnxhd-from-atomos-samurai Wed, 17 Jul 2013 00:02:56 +0000 peternap 7537@/talks/discussions I have the same questions about setting up AE for grading Native DNXHD from my Samurai, captured from my AC160...as MikhailK did with the GH3. I couldn't find the subject anywhere. http://www.personal-view.com/talks/discussion/5877/help-setting-up-after-effects-for-gh2-color-grading/p1

Any help with the initial project settings would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance!

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EIZO Colour Management Handbook, free https://www.personal-view.com/talks/discussion/7435/eizo-colour-management-handbook-free- Fri, 05 Jul 2013 04:59:42 +0000 Vitaliy_Kiselev 7435@/talks/discussions

Handbook explains the basics of colour management and the role of the monitor in the digital workflow. Key points for the photographer, retoucher, designer, and printer are included to increase colour management accuracy.

http://www.eizo.com/global/support/db/files/catalogs/ce/Color_Management_Handbook.pdf

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Color Transfer: Photoshop Plug-in Open Beta https://www.personal-view.com/talks/discussion/7486/color-transfer-photoshop-plug-in-open-beta Thu, 11 Jul 2013 05:22:57 +0000 ColorBandit 7486@/talks/discussions I’m a recent PhD grad in computer graphics and I’m hoping to bring some of my research to the real world! I’ve been working on a Photoshop plug-in for color transfer - it does pretty much the same thing as the “Match Color” tool already built into Photoshop, except it gets much better results. I’m running an open beta this month and I was hoping you guys would like to take the plug-in for a spin. At the moment it only works in RGB mode with 8 bits per channel. Besides those restrictions it should work on anything. I’d love to get your feedback on how the plug-in could be improved, and I’d love to see what kind of cool transfers you guys come up with using this technology.

http://www.synthetechinc.com/colorbandit.html

+++++++DOWNLOAD THE PLUG-IN)++++++++

www.synthetechinc.com/ColorBandit/ColorBandit.8bf I’ve tested the plug-in on CS4, CS5 and CS6 in 32 bit mode (I suspect earlier Photoshops will work as well. I’m pretty sure this will not work for 64 bit versions).

+++++++ INSTRUCTIONS ++++++++

You need to copy the ColorBandit.8bf file to your “Filters” folder in the plug-in directory. Assuming you installed Photoshop normally, this would be C:/Program Files (x86)/Adobe/Adobe Photoshop CS#/Plug-ins/Filters

To use Color Bandit, go to the "Filters" menu on the top bar, go down to "Synthetech" and select "Color Bandit". A dialog will pop up with two options, grab and apply. Grabbing will capture whatever image currently has focus and store it to a buffer. Apply will transfer the colors from whatever image was last "grabbed" to the current image which has focus. Color Bandit should work with selected regions of an image, please let me know if it does not.

NOTE # 1: CS6 does not have a “Filters” folder in the Plug-ins directory, so you’ll need to create one).

NOTE #2: Make sure you copy to “Program Files (x86)” and not “Program Files”. Also make sure that you open the 32 bit version of Photoshop, not the 64 bit version.

+++++++++ CONTEST +++++++++

If you guys produce any cool transfers I’d love to show them off to the world! If you’d like your images to be used to promote Color Bandit then just post them in this thread. If I like them and use them then I’ll both cite you as the original author, and I’ll send you a commercial license for Color Bandit as a gift (NOTE: you have to own the rights to these pictures). If you can think of an uncommon/unconventional use for Color Bandit then that will be favored as well.

+++++++++ QUESTIONS +++++++++

I have some general survey questions – just stuff to help me choose where to allocate my time in order to deliver the best plug-in to the most users. Feel free to answer as much or as little as you'd like :)

What version of Photoshop do you use?
Do you plan to switch to creative cloud in the next year?
What platform do you use? Win, Mac?
How important would 16 and 32 bit RGB image support be to you? (1=low ---- 10=high)

Businessy questions

Would you use this as a hobbyist or commercially? If commercially then what/where is your job?
Where do you usually go to find/buy new plug-ins?
What would this plug-in be worth to you as a hobbyist or commercially (in $)?
What Photography/Photoshop websites/magazines do you read to find out about stuff like this?

Thanks for your time and enjoy the beta!

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How do I get that "Canon" look? https://www.personal-view.com/talks/discussion/7408/how-do-i-get-that-canon-look Mon, 01 Jul 2013 17:56:24 +0000 acuriousman 7408@/talks/discussions I want my colors (JUST COLORS) to be more like a Canon's using my GH2 and Adobe Premeire.

How do I do that?

Some examples of what I want to recreate.

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Technicolor Cinestyle Color Assist - Cinelights, MetaColor https://www.personal-view.com/talks/discussion/4250/technicolor-cinestyle-color-assist-cinelights-metacolor Wed, 15 Aug 2012 00:43:23 +0000 Wilbo 4250@/talks/discussions Hi Folks,

Today I attended the WEVA 2012 trade show in Universal City, CA. Technicolor gave a really interesting presentation on some new color management tools they will be releasing near the end of August 2012. I have no affiliation with Technicolor; I just thought this was pretty neat. Brochure copy attached (Note: I took pictures of the brochure for upload, so the coloring is off. The info is legible though)

From my understanding to get the most out of this primary color correction system you'll need to shoot with a camera that utilizes a CineStyle color profile (Canon EOS or GoProHD) or some type of log format (Red, Alexa, F3... the expensive cameras).

There's also a basic CineStyle curve that can be post-applied to non-log, more contrasty footage (such as that of the GH2), to assist in color grading--but of course this will be less effective... I asked TC if it even made any sense to use this system on non-log footage since exposure and limited dynamic range would already be baked in. They said there would be some benefit for grading since this footage would be converted to a log colorspace (Correct term? I might be remembering wrong, but TC definitely said there would be benefit). Not sure if I fully agree/understand but I wasn't going to argue with TC (The presenter's name was Brian Gaffney. He works on all of the big Hollywood productions for TC.).

Paraphrasing from the attached brochure:

  1. Use CineStyle Color Assist [stand alone software] advanced color correction or apply fromm Cinestyle Looks library [about 20 "looks"]
  2. Preview in real-time without rendering (non-destructive) using MetaColor embeded in Quick time... [Technicolor has found a way to assign up to 9 separate color grades as non-destructive metadata attached to Quicktime movies files. Utilizing a stand alone player developed by TC or a TC FCP/PP plugin, you can quickly and easily review multiple grades.]
  3. Edit and publish using FCP or PP
  4. Share online via 3rd party applications.

Application Capabilities

Color Curve Editor, Color Keying, Primary Color Correction in Lift/Gamma/Gain mode, CDL Color Correction with Offset/Slope/Power including Saturation, CineStyle Looks Library with preset color grades, Real-time preview using MetaColor player included, Embedded audio sound playback, Plug-in support for FCP, Plug-in support for PP 5.5+

Lastly, this color management system should be available for about $100.

I think this package looks pretty awesome but since secondary color corrections are not built in I think there's just a little left to be desired. Anyway, still very cool and reasonably priced imho. What do you guys think???

-w :)

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Magic Bullet Looks preset (flat starting point) https://www.personal-view.com/talks/discussion/4943/magic-bullet-looks-preset-flat-starting-point Sat, 20 Oct 2012 02:07:34 +0000 GravitateMediaGroup 4943@/talks/discussions Does anybody have any interesting ones? I've found quite a few around the Internet, some good some bad.

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COLOR SPACE VISUALIZATION https://www.personal-view.com/talks/discussion/7344/color-space-visualization Tue, 25 Jun 2013 06:38:30 +0000 tida 7344@/talks/discussions You will find at http://www.couleur.org/ a nice freeware tool wich can visualize in 2D/3D different color spaces. If you ever wanted to create your own color-wheel or know why vectorscopes from different color grading softwares set R/Mg/B/Cy/G/Yl color points differently - you could visualize the answer quickly as they might work with different color spaces. Can visualize 3D color spaces like Lab, YUV, YCbCr, etc.

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Grading MTS vs. ProRes converted files on OS X: is there a concensus? https://www.personal-view.com/talks/discussion/7298/grading-mts-vs.-prores-converted-files-on-os-x-is-there-a-concensus Wed, 19 Jun 2013 11:14:14 +0000 Alienhead 7298@/talks/discussions I just started grading my footage with Premiere CS6 after using Final Cut Pro for a long time. I had been converting all my files to ProRes using 5D to RGB, which was the original recommendation of Andrew Reid on EOSHD. Then more recently he said it wasn't necessary to do that anymore because there's a fix in Premiere where you increase input and output levels to 15 and 235 respectively http://www.eoshd.com/content/8612/mac-avchd-gamma-issues-the-fix

In an AVCHD timeline in Premiere Pro CS6, I imported two clips, one the original MTS and the other a converted ProRes of that clip. But the result was not fixed by only 15 and 235 input/output adjustment, it required something closer to 40 and 215. And that did not mean that the result was the same, there was still more blue in the highlights and shadows in the MTS vs. the ProRes. Further adjustment would be needed, but the ProRes conversion was more balanced.

This was just my first test, and I'm no expert in this, but it seems like conversion to ProRes still makes sense. What are other people's take on this?

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Scopes in After Effects https://www.personal-view.com/talks/discussion/4044/scopes-in-after-effects Wed, 25 Jul 2012 20:51:39 +0000 kavadni 4044@/talks/discussions I am starting to use After Effects more ... badly need scopes.

I found this .. http://www.toolfarm.com/buy/synthetic_aperture_test_gear http://www.synthetic-ap.com/products/tg/index.html

No need to apply an effect .. it runs as a full time floating window The demo only runs for 10 minutes ..I have purchased it.

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Is there a way to know if a video is 8/10 bit or 4:2:2/4:2:0 ? https://www.personal-view.com/talks/discussion/7156/is-there-a-way-to-know-if-a-video-is-810-bit-or-422420- Tue, 04 Jun 2013 14:35:11 +0000 jazzroy 7156@/talks/discussions I have no idea if there's a scientific way to prove one or the other, or I have to count only on splitting colors and look at each color definition or try heavy color correction and see how picture quality holds?

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DaVinci Resolve for PC https://www.personal-view.com/talks/discussion/1720/davinci-resolve-for-pc Tue, 13 Dec 2011 04:45:14 +0000 Vitaliy_Kiselev 1720@/talks/discussions

Links to beta versions:

Lite

http://blackmagic-design.com/support/detail/?os=win&sid=3948&pid=11735&leg=false

Full

http://www.blackmagic-design.com/support/detail/?os=win&sid=3948&pid=4446&leg=false

Manual

http://blackmagic-design.com/media/2384464/DaVinci_Resolve_Manual.pdf
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grading 1080p on a 1440p monitor https://www.personal-view.com/talks/discussion/6886/grading-1080p-on-a-1440p-monitor Sat, 04 May 2013 14:08:26 +0000 chauncy 6886@/talks/discussions I feel like the answer should be obvious, but that doesn't give me much comfort.

Okay if I'm editing and grading 1080p video: what exactly happens if I'm using a 1440p monitor. When I look at fullscreen in Resolve does my 1080p video show fullscreen on a 1440p monitor. Or does it display as an 1080p image in the middle of the screen or what? Do people set the monitor to 1080p to deal with this? Does that make things look fuzzy.l

I'll be using adobe cs6 and resolve. I will deliver in 1080p. I'm concerned about if the pixels get distorted, if things get stretched. If I had a 1440p screen I could run a 5 minute test and answer my questions but I don't.

Looking at dell u2713h or hm.

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Movies in Colour https://www.personal-view.com/talks/discussion/6880/movies-in-colour Sat, 04 May 2013 04:14:17 +0000 matthere 6880@/talks/discussions Came across a nice little blog on colour in movies with stills and colour palettes :)
http://moviesincolor.com/

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Matching Sony Colors https://www.personal-view.com/talks/discussion/6684/matching-sony-colors Sat, 13 Apr 2013 02:12:26 +0000 oscillian 6684@/talks/discussions I'm going to use mostly Sony camcorders on a shoot and the GH2 for close ups and shallow DOP stuff. The Sonys see colors in a different way (Cinema tone) and my question is if anyone has experience of choosing a matching color profile on the GH2?

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Adobe Lightroom 4 topic https://www.personal-view.com/talks/discussion/1979/adobe-lightroom-4-topic Tue, 10 Jan 2012 12:08:58 +0000 Oedipax 1979@/talks/discussions The previous Lightroom 3 allowed cataloging and thumbnails, but LR4 supports basic grading of video using AVCHD and Canon DSLR Quicktime .mov formats. It's still a bit crude and I'm sure you'll still want to grade with something more fully featured, but I still thought it was a cool feature. See below for feature demo video.

Just checked and it's working for some GH2 footage shot on Quantum v7 (native MTS format).

I'm a big fan of Lightroom for grading my stills so I might even get some use out of this, although I have no idea at the moment what the export options are like for video.

Edit: I should probably add that Lightroom 4 is a free open beta so anyone can download it for Mac/Windows and use it until April or so when the retail release happens.

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Amazing MBL color grading https://www.personal-view.com/talks/discussion/6097/amazing-mbl-color-grading Tue, 12 Feb 2013 08:22:07 +0000 montagereflex 6097@/talks/discussions Hi, In this video(
), the filmmaker used a Canon 7D with the neutral picture profile. In post production he used Magic Bullet Looks. The result is simply amazing!!

My question is, how to do that with Magic Bullet Looks ?

Thanks for your help.

Best regards.

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Grading Contest - Windy Winter https://www.personal-view.com/talks/discussion/6210/grading-contest-windy-winter Fri, 22 Feb 2013 03:31:17 +0000 davidhjlindberg 6210@/talks/discussions Hey guys,

I just started my second grading contest which you can read more about on this link: http://davidhjlindberg.blogspot.se/2013/02/grading-contest-windy-winter.html

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Free 35mm Film grain https://www.personal-view.com/talks/discussion/4231/free-35mm-film-grain Mon, 13 Aug 2012 12:21:23 +0000 johnnygh2 4231@/talks/discussions Hi friends,

I'm looking for film grain. I realy like the 35mm filmgrain from Rgrain but I don't have the money to buy the package :( Do you know where I can get free grain?

The grain effect in magic bullet looks 2.0 is not that nice I think.

Kind regards,

Johnny

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Online free training source, and some other questions? https://www.personal-view.com/talks/discussion/6193/online-free-training-source-and-some-other-questions Wed, 20 Feb 2013 12:26:20 +0000 TravisBickle 6193@/talks/discussions I am looking for a good free online tutorials for color grading, because the most I saw were made by people who juste crush the blacks and make the yellowish highlights and blue shadows - trying to imitate Transformers? Are there any quality tutorials guides on this subject?

Also do you think that one should start with a simple color grading tool like Magic bullet Colorista/Looks or Color Finesse or move directly to more advance stuff like DaVinci Resolve. Also i heard some criticizm of Adobe Speedgrade, what is your take on that?

Do you need well lit scenes for color grading or can you grade scenes that are lit using only the sun?

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Need Color grading Advice https://www.personal-view.com/talks/discussion/6114/need-color-grading-advice Wed, 13 Feb 2013 22:41:53 +0000 spaceandtime 6114@/talks/discussions So i'm planning to make a short film in the future, God willing. I'm just conflicted between these 2 grades I have. I'm not sure if anyone of them should be an option. I'm just asking for opinions on which grade looks more pleasant or filmic to the eye. I'm aiming more for a movie like grade. If neither of them, if you could give me some tips on what I should to. Thanks

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Color grading tutorials https://www.personal-view.com/talks/discussion/2977/color-grading-tutorials Sun, 22 Apr 2012 15:10:16 +0000 Vitaliy_Kiselev 2977@/talks/discussions

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Upsampling/Upconverting beneficial before editing footage? https://www.personal-view.com/talks/discussion/5995/upsamplingupconverting-beneficial-before-editing-footage Sat, 02 Feb 2013 20:22:40 +0000 matt_gh2 5995@/talks/discussions Would love to hear opinions on whether there is any significant benefit of upconverting/upsampling footage before editing and color grading. I'm relatively new to editing, so all opinions and knowledge is much appreciated. I'm wondering if GH2 1080P footage would benefit from upconverting it to 4k before editing...i.e. would it hold up better in grading and could it be pushed further before the image starts breaking down? Also wondering if it's possible(as talked about in Windmotion thread) and advisable to upsample GH2 1080P footage to 4:4:4 before editing...i.e. does this too help with better results in grading?

I edit in Adobe CS6 with access to all programs (Creative Cloud) such as Premiere Pro, After Effects, Speedgrade, etc.

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Rookie Monitor Calibration Question - Is it really important? https://www.personal-view.com/talks/discussion/5996/rookie-monitor-calibration-question-is-it-really-important Sat, 02 Feb 2013 20:38:00 +0000 matt_gh2 5996@/talks/discussions Here's a rookie question. Is it really necessary to calibrate the monitor you use when editing? I ask this because I guess when the editing is being done...whether you have a calibrated monitor or you don't...it seems you still have to export your footage and view it on the all the types of screens your audience would view it (computer monitors, hdtvs, standard def tvs, iphones, ipads, theater screens).

I currently edit in Adobe CS6 on a PC laptop with a less than stellar screen (one of those ones that looks kinda washed out). I often will connect the Laptop to a 62" HDTV or a 42" HDTV to edit as well. So I've basically just been exporting footage and viewing on a variety of screens...and adjusting as necessary.

My only guess is that a properly calibrated monitor can be defined as one that somehow sits in the middle/average of what all the different audience members screens are?

All advice is much appreciated.

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GH3 Footage - Grading Test https://www.personal-view.com/talks/discussion/5981/gh3-footage-grading-test Fri, 01 Feb 2013 11:51:33 +0000 davidhjlindberg 5981@/talks/discussions Thanks to Jonas Linngård for letting me borrow his lovely Panasonic GH3.

In this test, watch how far I can push the darkest midtones to bring all those stones and rocks underneath the surface back in a really nice way. Even though the grading gave it a crispy, contrasty look, you can look at the ice blocks that we didn't loose too much information in the highlights. We didn't loose too much in the shadows either, but a little bit more though we darkened the surface so much.

The grade was made in Adobe After Effects only using curves.

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Advice for correcting white background shot with 20mm pancake at f1.8 https://www.personal-view.com/talks/discussion/5781/advice-for-correcting-white-background-shot-with-20mm-pancake-at-f1.8 Mon, 14 Jan 2013 23:58:31 +0000 Rambo 5781@/talks/discussions Yep, I got caught without a good lighting setup in a studio and shot a clip with GH2 and 20mm pancake at f1.8. The clip is of a white and red machine with an actor onboard. The background is a white wall and the combination of the lens at 1.8 and and uneven lighting resulted in a graduated vignette effect (getting darker further from the centre) I guess the pancake has a fair bit of light falloff at that aperture.

I've applied a grad exposure from two sides with Magic bullets and a general lift in exposure and Neat video. This results in banding, washout out colours and the white subject parts disappearing into the white background.

I bounced a very bright tungsten light off the ceiling as that's all that was available in the studio.

Any ideas please.

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8bit color nonsense https://www.personal-view.com/talks/discussion/5439/8bit-color-nonsense Mon, 10 Dec 2012 12:40:59 +0000 shian 5439@/talks/discussions Per the discussion that started in the GH3 thread: http://www.personal-view.com/talks/discussion/comment/101069#Comment_101069

Where it was stated that shooting flat in 8bit was a terrible idea, and the nonsense we've heard over and over that you can't bring that color back, which everyone who has seen my work knows is just not true.

While it is true you cannot magically turn 8 bit color into 32bit color. Working in a 32bit environment does allow your corrections to enhance your footage rather than deteriorate your footage.

@FilmingArt FCP X, Premiere Pro CS6, Vegas Pro 12, Smoke 2013, are all 32bit

Just go to my vimeo channel to see tons of video's shot using this method on 8bit cameras https://vimeo.com/channels/shianstorm

And then check these threads for why you are catastrophically wrong about "noise and all kinds of other problems." And welcome to the discussion.

http://www.personal-view.com/talks/discussion/1817/colorghear-toolkit-color-grading-system-for-ae/p1

http://www.personal-view.com/talks/discussion/5346/colorghear-toolkit-color-grading-system-for-ae-part-2#Item_10

http://www.personal-view.com/talks/discussion/3773/expose-in-the-zone-getting-the-best-image-for-grading./p1

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Tutorial - How to make your scene cinematic https://www.personal-view.com/talks/discussion/5680/tutorial-how-to-make-your-scene-cinematic Sun, 06 Jan 2013 15:18:05 +0000 davidhjlindberg 5680@/talks/discussions Hey guys, hope you will enjoy this:

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Denoising Footage | Collection for Future Reference https://www.personal-view.com/talks/discussion/1914/denoising-footage-collection-for-future-reference Mon, 02 Jan 2012 20:02:23 +0000 kholi 1914@/talks/discussions
http://www.campcomet.com/archives/884 | www.campcomet.com

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Fusion for Grading https://www.personal-view.com/talks/discussion/5668/fusion-for-grading Sat, 05 Jan 2013 08:05:46 +0000 clyde_t 5668@/talks/discussions Now that connection offers easy access to the Eyeon Fusion toolset using Avid as a host app, has anyone tried grading with it? i did a little bit. i know the Fusion toolset well and it seems like a decent solution. just wondering what others think about this. i know a lot of people don't own Fusion because AE is so affordable in comparison, but I have used it for years and love it.

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