Tagged with lens - Personal View Talks http://www.personal-view.com/talks/discussions/tagged/lens/feed.rss Thu, 05 May 16 21:33:00 -0600 Tagged with lens - Personal View Talks en-CA 14mm F2.8 Samyang, Rokinon lens topic http://www.personal-view.com/talks/discussion/374/14mm-f2.8-samyang-rokinon-lens-topic Tue, 12 Jul 2011 16:05:43 -0600 Vitaliy_Kiselev 374@/talks/discussions

Mount: Canon (buy cheap converter for m43, lens has aperture ring, so it is ok)

Price: $299 only

Amazing lens. Sharp as hell. I have one with original Samyang name.
Only negative is some distortion present. But I love it anyway.

Where to get? - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004MX5AVK/]]>
105mm F2 Laowa F2, T3.2 STF LENS http://www.personal-view.com/talks/discussion/14696/105mm-f2-laowa-f2-t3.2-stf-lens Thu, 03 Mar 2016 03:21:20 -0700 Vitaliy_Kiselev 14696@/talks/discussions image

  • Manual Focus
  • Filter Size is 67mm
  • F2 (T3.2, due to apodization element) to F22
  • 11 elements in 8 groups
  • Aperture Blades - 8 F‐stop, 14 T‐stop
  • Min. Focus Distance 0.9M
  • 745g
  • 76mm x 98.9mm
  • $699
  • Cheaper on our deals - http://www.personal-view.com/deals/lenses/laowa

UK OPTICS (LAOWA UK) is pleased to present the Laowa 105mm F2 STF Lens. STF stands for Smooth Trans Focus, in reference to its special optical system, which is intended to deliver smooth transitions between crisp in‐focus areas and creamy defocused background or foreground areas. This unique manual focus only lens has an integrated apodisation filter that provides superior bokeh rendering and crystal sharp images.

Full frame compatible lens featuring 11 elements in 8 groups with a 14 blade aperture* and a minimum focus distance of just 0.9M. All metal alloy construction housing multi‐coated glass elements throughout. At a focal length of 105mm and with the inherent softly diffused bokeh, this lens is perfect for portraiture.

The Laowa 105mm F2 STF lens is one of only a few lenses currently offering an apodisation effect. Available later in March with an MSRP of £649.99, in the following mounts: Nikon, Canon, Sony A, Sony E and Pentax.

35mm F1.7 Fujian CCTV TV lens http://www.personal-view.com/talks/discussion/4942/35mm-f1.7-fujian-cctv-tv-lens- Fri, 19 Oct 2012 20:28:48 -0600 nickr 4942@/talks/discussions Just bought the Fujian 35mm F1.7 C mount lens from dino direct in China. Took about 3 weeks to get , only cost 20 bucks. Lens is excellent for vintage film look. Stepless f stops for smooth transitions. Looks like a copy of SLR Magic, for alot less. Best 20 bucks I ever spent.

Available at:

FS: GH2 Package (24mm f/2 FD Lens, 50mm f/1.4 FD Lens, RJ Lens Turbo, etc.) http://www.personal-view.com/talks/discussion/14423/fs-gh2-package-24mm-f2-fd-lens-50mm-f1.4-fd-lens-rj-lens-turbo-etc. Wed, 13 Jan 2016 03:31:53 -0700 rpcstudio 14423@/talks/discussions I'm currently selling my good condition GH2 (plus 2 batteries, charger) along with the following: • Panasonic Lumix G Vario 14-140mm f/4 - 5.8 • 24mm f/2 FD Lens • 50mm f/1.4 FD Lens • FD to Micro Four Thirds Adapter (ciecio7) • FD to Micro Four RJ Lens Turbo Focal Reducer • Nikon F to FD adapter

Selling all together for $1000

PM me if interested. Payment via PayPal

FS. Panasonic Lumix G X Vario 12-35 2.8 http://www.personal-view.com/talks/discussion/11613/fs.-panasonic-lumix-g-x-vario-12-35-2.8 Wed, 22 Oct 2014 12:25:53 -0600 katig 11613@/talks/discussions Good condition (minor/micro signs of use on the lens body, perfect glass), no original packaging, no lens hood (lost it because I never used it). 690€+shipping (I'm in Croatia, part of EU) via Paypal

35-100mm m43 small lens http://www.personal-view.com/talks/discussion/8465/35-100mm-m43-small-lens Thu, 17 Oct 2013 08:20:40 -0600 Vitaliy_Kiselev 8465@/talks/discussions image


  • Stabilizer - MEGA O.I.S
  • 7 bladed aperture
  • 12 lenses in 9 groups
  • 2 ED lenses, one aspheric
50mm F1.1 Kodak / Sakar m43 lens http://www.personal-view.com/talks/discussion/8555/-50mm-f1.1-kodak-sakar-m43-lens- Fri, 25 Oct 2013 15:06:52 -0600 Vitaliy_Kiselev 8555@/talks/discussions image


This lens as well seems to be very well-built, and we found the operation of both the focusing and the aperture rings to be very smooth and comfortable.

At f1.1, the lens is very soft, which could actually work very nicely for portraiture.

Via: http://www.thephoblographer.com/2013/10/25/surprise-surprise-sakar-bringing-fast-kodak-branded-glass-micro-four-thirds/

How lenses are made http://www.personal-view.com/talks/discussion/51/how-lenses-are-made- Wed, 04 May 2011 08:41:59 -0600 Vitaliy_Kiselev 51@/talks/discussions

Cosina video

12-24mm F4 Tokina AT-X Pro http://www.personal-view.com/talks/discussion/157/12-24mm-f4-tokina-at-x-pro- Tue, 31 May 2011 21:18:03 -0600 Vitaliy_Kiselev 157@/talks/discussions

Good lens for good price ($350).
Build like a tank, usual for AT-X lenses.
Nikon version.

New deals:

* DX II - http://www.amazon.com/Tokina-12-24mm-AT-X-DX-II/dp/B001LD51GS/
* http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/360350-REG/Tokina_ATX124AFPRON_12_24mm_f_4_AT_X_124.html ($450)

Used ($360-420):

12-35mm F2.8 Panasonic lens topic http://www.personal-view.com/talks/discussion/3283/12-35mm-f2.8-panasonic-lens-topic Sun, 20 May 2012 20:41:13 -0600 Vitaliy_Kiselev 3283@/talks/discussions image

Price: $1299, 1100 Euro, 999 pounds

Avilable at:

Press release:


Previews and reviews:


50mm lenses, fast ones http://www.personal-view.com/talks/discussion/369/-50mm-lenses-fast-ones Mon, 11 Jul 2011 03:12:30 -0600 Tesselator 369@/talks/discussions


During the shooting of the Takumar I caught some specular reflections. I recently built an automatic indoor bird bath for my parrot and it's got a little lightshow that goes off every time it turns on. Those lights showed up in the test chart without me noticing - and I'm way too lazy to reshoot. :D

These were all done on the 1m chart at ISO 100, with AE turned on. WB was set to the chart's white looking through the Canon FD 50/1.4 SSC and left there so the color differences (for white at least) could be compared. I only included the right and left corners cuz that's pretty much mid-area if shot on a FF anyway (not center, but mid).

This test obviously won't tell everything about a lens like how sharp it is when focused to infinity or what the bokeh is like, but I guess it's a pretty good comparison for these to show sharpness at one meter. And 1 to 3 meters is nice bust portraiture with a 50mm on the GH1.

The chart numbers are to be multiplied by 100 to get LPP (Lines Per Picture). But actually, since I was pulled out just a tad in order to use the box for framing the shots, maybe multiplying by 107 or so would be more accurate. :D I shot them all in 4x3 format on a Linhof tripod, with the 10s timer, using the 15X zoom MF assist - using the right-most red box (above) as the focus point.

The Canons seem to be the winners (in this test) but all of those are IMO excellent lenses - except the Rokkor-PF F/1.7 maybe. And it's an awesome looking antique. I have a bunch of other 50's that start at 2.0 or greater which are also very wonderful - like the 55/2.8 Nikkor Micro, the Minolta AF 50/2.8 Marco or some of the Zeiss/Jena Biotars and various Tessar implementations, etc..

I also wanted to test the Voigtlander 50/1.5 but I can't seem to find my adapter.]]>
Hidden gems among lenses http://www.personal-view.com/talks/discussion/80/hidden-gems-among-lenses Thu, 12 May 2011 00:39:39 -0600 Vitaliy_Kiselev 80@/talks/discussions
First one - Vivitar 28-200mm F3.5-5.3

1) Buy only original 28-200mm as in picture below. Tokina is absolutely different lens with different optical formula (look at crop from Vivitar box, Tokina have fewer elements).
2) For Pentax, lens could come either in PK/A or PK A/R mounts. In former you must remoive Ricoh pin. On both you must use file to remove excessive lever protection.
3) Closed down, lens is PP friend. Good wide open, but as on many old lenses have some abberations. Contrast is lower due to many glass surfaces and not top-notch coatings. Abberations are almost absent if close down (see below).
4) Corners are controlled quite well.

Available at:


Some links:


Lens and box photos:





25mm F0.95 Pancake by Mitakon http://www.personal-view.com/talks/discussion/13676/25mm-f0.95-pancake-by-mitakon Tue, 08 Sep 2015 07:43:58 -0600 Vitaliy_Kiselev 13676@/talks/discussions image



42.5mm F1.2 Mitakon lens http://www.personal-view.com/talks/discussion/11285/42.5mm-f1.2-mitakon-lens Mon, 15 Sep 2014 01:33:34 -0600 Vitaliy_Kiselev 11285@/talks/discussions image

The new Zhongyi Mitakon 42.5mm f/1.2 Lens features an incredibly fast aperture of f/1.2, making it ideally suited for low-light conditions shooting, greater control over selective focus and shallow depth of field imagery. Designed for the use with an APS-C-sized camera sensor, the lens gives a 35mm-equivalent focal length of nearly 64mm. Above features provide an excellent portrait shooting solution for mirrorless cameras users. The lens also houses with 7 elements in 9 groups of optical lenses to provide great deal of image clarity and color renderness.


24mm F1.7 Mitakon lens http://www.personal-view.com/talks/discussion/11276/24mm-f1.7-mitakon-lens Sun, 14 Sep 2014 07:28:26 -0600 AlbertZ 11276@/talks/discussions image

The new Zhongyi Mitakon 24mm f/1.7 Lens is a fast prime wide-angle lens that provides a 35mm-equivalent focal length of 35mm, making it ideally suited for everyday shooting applications. The fast f/1.7 maximum aperture benefits working in low-light conditions and also avails greater control over the focus position for shallow depth of field and selective focus techniques. The 0.15m ultra close minimum focus distance benefit users in image composition. The lens incorporates 9 elements in 8 groups with ED lenses in order to minimize chromatic aberrations for greater clarity and color accuracy. The compact size (55mm x 61.5mm) and light-weight (246g) of the lens also make it perfect for mirrorless camera users.


FS: M4/3 Zoom Lens, F/2 16-160mm 10X Parfocal, covers GH4 sensor in 4K mode http://www.personal-view.com/talks/discussion/14569/fs-m43-zoom-lens-f2-16-160mm-10x-parfocal-covers-gh4-sensor-in-4k-mode Fri, 12 Feb 2016 08:37:41 -0700 BrennanK 14569@/talks/discussions image


  1. INFINITY FOCUS. The lens is made "parfocal", providing proper infinity focus. Minimum focusing distance with this lens is about 3 to 4 feet.

  2. PRECISION GLASS. Manufactured in Japan, this zoom precision lens is nearly perfect in optical quality. As the photos demonstrate, the glass on this lens is stunning, though it only resolves 1080p.

  3. PARFOCAL. With most zooms you lose focus as you zoom the lens. However, this lens maintains perfect focus throughout the entire zoom range of 16mm to 160mm. (See photos straight off GH2)

  4. ZOOM. The zoom throw on this lens is about 55 degrees, the zoom barrel is tight with no play. It is smooth and a pleasure to shoot with.

  5. VERY FAST. This is a constant F/2 lens which is an exceptional low light performer. An 8 blade aperture produces a nice round bokeh. The declicked aperture for silent, butter smooth operation. Aperture throw is 45 degrees.

  6. NO VIGNETTING. As set up and tested on the BMPCC and the GH4 in 4K in UHD, there is no vignetting anywhere on this lens. This lens covers the 4K image circle on the GH4, but it only really resolves 1080p resolution, you need Canon Cinema lenses to resolve 4K… As you consider, remember that this lens has a CONSTANT aperture of f/2 all the way out to 160mm! Please be aware, the lens has better sharpness at F/5.6... F/2.0 wide open, like any lens, is relatively soft.

If you are interested in purchasing this lens from me, please send me a PM or contact me below... This lens is valued at $500USD, but I am willing to sell it for $400USD and free shipping because I know people like good deals! Besides, I need to buy a Canon XA35 so this lens will no longer be needed by me. You win!

Please visit https://www.dropbox.com/sh/6qy72l557o3h9em/AABsnc2nzu38jiwa8ZyhjgA4a?dl=0 for high resolution photos.

Contact: Brennan Kirkpatrick brennan@infinichair.ca 613-466-0222

SLR Magic 2x ANAMORPHIC lens http://www.personal-view.com/talks/discussion/4466/slr-magic-2x-anamorphic-lens Tue, 04 Sep 2012 15:35:25 -0600 slrmagic 4466@/talks/discussions Dear All,

We have received 4 email requests from members of this forum on the possibility of designing an Anamorphic lens. We had this thought for the past year and did a lot of research. There is one common request which is to have horizontal flares. The others requests did not have any common grounds. We came up with an idea for a 25mm f/3.2 1.35x or 35mm f/3.2 1.35x Anamorphic lens for micro four thirds. Shooting at 16:9 would give a 2.40:1 anamorphic output. Just before we decided to go ahead with the project we had a second thought. 2 Years ago we asked openly on dpreview.com forum for what photographers wanted and the general consensus was our SLR Magic HyperPrime 12mm T1.6 lens.


It did not fulfill the needs and wants of everyone but we made what most people agreed on by means of a discussion. It ended up being a popular lens that we still are having problems meeting demand and we think it had a big part to do with asking photographers. If we did not ask around we probably made a 12mm f/2.8 lens. As it turned out quite well last time we want to make our next lens an open discussion again.

Here are some of the possible options we received and please feel free to throw in extra ideas. I hope people experienced with shooting in Anamorphic can also throw in ideas.

Anamorphic Adapter (1.33x, 1.5x, 1.75x, 2x) Dedicated mFT Anamorphic adapter for reasonable size Anamorphic adapter compatible with FF lenses 50mm f/2.8 Anamorphic lens (FF, APS-C, or mFT) Expected MSRP (Sad fact but it as direct correlation to IQ)

Kind rgds., SLR Magic Team

P.S. We will be at Photokina 2012 and would like to welcome any cinematographers with Anamorphic lens ideas to drop by our booth for idea exchange! We will be in Hall 3.1 B059

Old wide angle lenses (24mm, 28mm) on m43 ? http://www.personal-view.com/talks/discussion/1664/old-wide-angle-lenses-24mm-28mm-on-m43- Wed, 07 Dec 2011 07:17:17 -0700 lenuisible 1664@/talks/discussions
I read that wider than 35mm RF (Leica) lenses doesn't perform well on m43 (for some optical reasons), does anyone have a wide reflex lens that works well ? I'm looking for a cheaper alternative to the Nokton for a friend, and was wondering if a canon fd 24mm 1.4 would be a good purchase for around 400€.]]>
Kowa m43 cine lenses lineup http://www.personal-view.com/talks/discussion/8767/kowa-m43-cine-lenses-lineup- Wed, 13 Nov 2013 10:22:52 -0700 astraban 8767@/talks/discussions image

Some good news for the format (including an 8,5 mm f/2.8)

RARE Gold Panasonic LUMIX DMC-GH1 12.1 MP Digital Camera http://www.personal-view.com/talks/discussion/14762/rare-gold-panasonic-lumix-dmc-gh1-12.1-mp-digital-camera Wed, 09 Mar 2016 17:38:26 -0700 koyahd 14762@/talks/discussions Rare hard to find Golden GH1 variation sold in Japan only in limited quantities I believe. It was hacked recently with the best possible settings after extensive research on forums. The camera was originally in Japanese before the language was switched to English after the hack. Well taken care of. Video quality rivals the hacked GH2 with the hack applied. I may post a sample video if I have time. The hack/patch allows you to switch between NTSC and PAL modes, supports multiple language selection, unrestricted recording time, and third-party batteries.

Shutter count only 5374!! (see picture).

Comes with everything pictured: Hacked Golden GH1 (try finding this colourway elsewhere at the moment) Condition 9.5/10 (regular wear on a few buttons and such) Sony UHS-I 16GB SDHC card Class 10 (good enough for the hacked GH1) Body cap New small camera bag from Henry's (can fit GH1 and pancake lens etc., no shoulder strap) Original Panasonic Battery Original Panasonic battery charger AV out cables for live view USB cable

Asking: $185 USD OBO all inclusive to the U.S. (no duties) $175 USD OBO all inclusive to Canada.

FS: RJ Lens Turbo adapters - Nikon (w/tripod ring) and M42 http://www.personal-view.com/talks/discussion/14764/fs-rj-lens-turbo-adapters-nikon-wtripod-ring-and-m42 Thu, 10 Mar 2016 10:25:02 -0700 joethepro 14764@/talks/discussions For Sale - Mint condition clean and clear:

RJ Lens Turbo - Nikon to m4/3 with tripod attachment - $95 shipped
RJ Lens Turbo - M42 to m4/3 - $90 shipped

USA buyers only please

RJ Lens Turbo m43 adapters http://www.personal-view.com/talks/discussion/9086/rj-lens-turbo-m43-adapters Fri, 13 Dec 2013 14:13:02 -0700 Vitaliy_Kiselev 9086@/talks/discussions image


Above is Nikon F/G - m43 0.71x.


  • m42 to m43
  • Nikon F /G to m43 (new, with tripod mount ring, check photo above)
  • Canon EOS (passive) to m43 (new, with tripod mount ring, check photo above)
  • Canon FD to m43
  • Monolta MD to m43
  • Pentax K to m43
  • Pentax PKA to m43 (for lenses without aperture rings)

Improved optics making is sharper than Mitakon offerings.

Price: adapters without tripod mount - $122, with tripod mount - $129
Shipping: Price already includes shipping for all countries.

I want to buy this adapter.

Macro lenses for m43, old ones http://www.personal-view.com/talks/discussion/1665/macro-lenses-for-m43-old-ones Wed, 07 Dec 2011 11:21:13 -0700 feha 1665@/talks/discussions Searching for alternative, old macro lenses, any experience in macro video filming ... ? ]]> 35-100mm F2.8 X lens topic http://www.personal-view.com/talks/discussion/4610/35-100mm-f2.8-x-lens-topic Mon, 17 Sep 2012 08:01:13 -0600 Vitaliy_Kiselev 4610@/talks/discussions image


  • Lens Construction - 18 elements in 13 groups (2 ED lenses , 1 UED lens)
  • Nano Surface Coating
  • Optical Image Stabilizer - POWER O.I.S.
  • Focal Length: f=35-100mm (35mm camera equivalent 70-200mm)
  • Aperture Type: 7 diaphragm blades / Circular aperture diaphragm
  • Maximum Aperture: F2.8
  • Minimum Aperture: F22
  • Closest Focusing Distance: 0.85m / 2.8ft
  • Maximum magnification: Approx. 0.1x / 0.2x (35mm camera equivalent)
  • Filter Size: 58mm / 2.3in
  • Max. Diameter: Approx 67.4mm / 2.7in
  • Overall Length: Approx. 99.9mm
  • Weight: Approx. 360g

Good to have separate one :-)

Reviews and previews:


Price: $1499

Available at:



GH4 diplay zoom for vignetting lenses http://www.personal-view.com/talks/discussion/14720/gh4-diplay-zoom-for-vignetting-lenses Sat, 05 Mar 2016 17:37:37 -0700 bambolero 14720@/talks/discussions Hi guys, do you think it could be possible to have a function that allows to zoom (in percentage) the GH4 display to use vignetting lenses and be able to see the usable framing? Like a hack or a firmware update? Sometimes if you use a 16mm cine lens there is a vignette but if you crop 10% for example the image is great. The framing is not easy though if you have to think about it in your head without a precise displayed image. Would'nt it be agreat thing for a new firmware version or a hack?

Lens Modifying http://www.personal-view.com/talks/discussion/6498/lens-modifying Mon, 25 Mar 2013 14:58:37 -0600 producer 6498@/talks/discussions I've read and watched all the available info about modifying the lens Pentax/Cosmicar/Rainbow 8-48mm f1.0.

I just received Canon TV C-Mount Lens 8-48mm f1.0 which looks like Rainbow model:


But the guides of modifying show difference between Rainbow and Canon at the thread construction inside.

Please anyone who has CANON 8-48mm f1.0 for help about the right modifying!!!

Big thanks in advance!

Samyang/Rokinon cine lenses http://www.personal-view.com/talks/discussion/4029/samyangrokinon-cine-lenses Tue, 24 Jul 2012 19:28:27 -0600 Vitaliy_Kiselev 4029@/talks/discussions Rokinon 35mm T1.5 cine lens will be available in U.S in few weeks and Rokinon 24mm T1.5 & 14mm T3.1 cine lens will be available in U.S in September.

Available at:

FS: C100 Mk II bundle http://www.personal-view.com/talks/discussion/14557/fs-c100-mk-ii-bundle Wed, 10 Feb 2016 04:20:51 -0700 aaronchicago 14557@/talks/discussions Excellent condition C100 Mk II (67 hrs) with 2 official Canon C100 batteries. 128GB SD card. Canon 17-55 f2.8 lens. Ready to shoot out of the box! $4200

C100 Bundle Photo

Hours Used Photo

11-20mm F2.8 PRO Tokina http://www.personal-view.com/talks/discussion/12035/11-20mm-f2.8-pro-tokina- Fri, 26 Dec 2014 09:14:16 -0700 konjow 12035@/talks/discussions image


  • 14 lenses in 12 groups
  • F2.8-F22 aperture
  • 28cm minimum focus distance
  • 82mm filter size
  • Nine blades diaphragm
  • 89 x 92 mm
  • 560g

I can't find it Tokina website yet.


Cooke anamorphic http://www.personal-view.com/talks/discussion/12567/cooke-anamorphic Wed, 11 Mar 2015 16:46:06 -0600 RRRR 12567@/talks/discussions Hey! Long time no see, been swamped in work - I thought I'd check in with some information that might be of interest as we shot a short last week on some wonderful new Cooke anamorphics. They took a huge chunk of the tech budget, however in the light of things I felt it was really worth it. Now, some purists say these and the Arri / Zeiss anamorphics are too clinical for their preference. In my opinion they are just right for keeping a safe production workflow when you can't always adapt the way you shoot to "the ideal" or when you have to adapt the way you shoot to what you shoot.

Let me recap. We shot the short on an fs700 coupled to an Odyssey 7q+. Wonderful, powerful couple, even if I'm not the biggest fan of Sony colors. I decided to stick between 2000 iso and 6400 iso for night shots, as we didn't have the budget for a lot of lighting equipment. 6400 iso noise is a bit bad, but workable. At most I could augment and mold natural light. We decided pretty early on that Anamorphic lenses would add a cinematic twist but also contribute to a sense of realism / immersion we were after in the production. Now, these new and very expensive anamorphics are sharp enough / corrected enough to be shot wide open and the mechanics are obviously top notch, making them as functional as any high quality spherical lens. Another things is; the short was shot almost entirely hand-held and when it comes to anamorphics, that can really skew things up badly if an adapter is only slightly off axis f.i.. I was a bit worried during the first day of shooting, as we didn't have a working live-grade setup for correcting the footage, however, I did not need to. These are perfectly corrected to not skew things up in a bad way, no matter how you shoot.

We ended up with the Cookes as the Arri/Zeiss ones had been booked by someone else, but they did not dissapoint one bit. After checking some tests online I chose the 40 and 75 as the former looked to have less CA / have better correction than the wider 32, while the 75 had some CA but allowed for different framing (The Arri Zeiss ones seem to be pretty identical, but the Cookes have some differences in-between them) and differences in distance emphasis, depending on location space. The lenses are massive, over 2 kg's, and I had to put together pieces from 2 different rigs to make it work, all in all we ended up with setup weighing in at around 10 kg's. After that, however, we hardly had to think any differently, though at the end of the shoot my eyes seemed to want to squeeze reality into 2x.

The bottom line, having lenses of this quality in the production allowed us to use anamorphics in the first place, to get a clear anamorphic look without the potential caveats of working with them, never taking time from the shoot. For a more extreme look, well, you may have that option with a bigger budget but then again, it's always possible to push things in the grade. (in doing both I retain control)

The lenses can be used at 2.3T (with sufficient sharpness), though I prefered to stay at 2.8 for most night exteriors. I'll add some sample frames here shortly, and update when I get into pregrade. If there are any surprises, I'll let you know.