Canon EOS M6 Mark II Camera

Vitaliy_Kiselev

Specs

32.5mp APS-C CMOS sensor improved noise performance
Dual Pixel AF, Expanded Area, Focus Guide
DIGIC 8+ LSI
Strange 4K at 30fps/25fps
1080p at 60fps/50fps/30fps/25fps
1080p HDR at 30fps/25fps
30min limit
Movie Picture Style, but LOG can be paid option
New Selfie mode and Vlog mode
Enhanced Movie IS (same electronic mess)
High-speed continuous shooting at a maximum of 16 FPS (with AE/AF)
RAW Burst mode at 30 FPS (with AE/AF)
14fsp serial
Eye AF (tracking possible)
AF capable down to -5 EV
Electronic shutter up to 1/16000s
Focus Bracketing
Supports external OLED electronic viewfinder
USB-C charge power supply
Wi-Fi and Bluetooth
119x70x49mm
408g
$849
- https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1502491-REG/canon_3611c001_eos_m6_mark_ii.html
- https://www.adorama.com/icam62s.html

MikeLinn

Vitaliy_Kiselev

Canon EOS M6 Mark II Mirrorless Digital Compact Camera + EF-M 15-45mm F/3.5-6.3 IS STM + EVF Kit, $799

https://www.amazon.com/Canon-Mirrorless-Camera-15-45mm-3-5-6-3/dp/B07WDLY364/

Vitaliy_Kiselev

Firmware version 1.1.0.

The option to capture movies in the frame rate of 23.98p has been added.
Fixes the phenomenon where the focus position of the lens returns to the home position if the camera powers off due to the “Auto Power Off” setting during Interval Timing shooting.
Fixes the phenomenon in which, in rare cases, the camera may not autofocus at the edges of the image area.

https://www.canon.co.uk/support/consumer_products/products/cameras/digital_slr/eos-m6-mark-ii.html?type=firmware&firmwaredetailid=tcm:14-1954712&os=windows%2010%20%2864-bit%29&language=

markr041

markr041

While many are staring at B&W line charts and wondering, some are actually shooting, taking advantage of the relatively big sensor in a small camera with small lenses and getting great 4K video, I think. Just a really good travel rig - M6 ii + EF M 18-150mm lens.

markr041

@DrDave I still don't get it. I posted multiple M6 ii 4K videos here. Are they also "unbelievably soft"? Different "samples" or are you still referring to blown-up resolution charts, which are completely irrelevant.

DrDave

I have to say, I just can't believe the samples on DpReview are that soft. Maybe there was a problem with the sample. But it is seriously soft.
@Eno 5D II was also the last Canon camera I used, except for a few of the 1080p camcorders (long time ago...)
5D II was a great cam, we should be lightyears beyond it lightyears ago.

Eno

@markr041 "you pixel peepers"

"Resolution isn't everything" that's why Canon is "spoiling us" with HD details in a 4K rapper at the end of 2019. Viva la video revolution... What revolution? Canon made a mistake by releasing basic video features on the 5D mk2 in 2008 (my last Canon camera) and they did everything in their power to correct that mistake since then. :)

DrDave

I like Canon--I just expect more.

markr041

How awful, the shame! How can anyone use this camera for video! One can barely make out any details at all.

Btw, you pixel peepers: "The ARRI Alexa cameras (apart from the Alexa 65 and LF) can’t natively shoot in UHD or 4K resolutions, but that hasn’t stopped them from being used. A lot of films captured on Alexa cameras have been upscaled to 4K for cinema release. Nobody complains about the image quality." https://www.newsshooter.com/2018/03/20/do-you-really-need-a-camera-that-can-shoot-4k/

Eno

@DrDave

Indeed the 4K out of the M6mk2 looks like a 2K resolution wise and the 1080p like 720p. It's a shame really!

Canon is the master of video crippling features and quality in their ILC cameras! Did you expect anything else from them?

markr041

The Canon M6 ii can shoot 30 5.1K 12-bit RAW images per second in burst mode up to 3.5 seconds (with AF!) with just a tiny crop internally. So, one can make a 30p video with resolution that exceeds 4K, with all the flexibility of shooting RAW. Almost no compression, no line skipping, 422 12bit. Does it work?

Here's an example (4K30P (downsampled) rendered from the 5.1K images):

Forget Magic Lantern. No mods needed. Really takes advantage of high-speed UHS-II sd cards.

Why do this? Because one can...

markr041

@DrDave I have posted multiple videos here. Do they look like crap too? Do you think the DPReview videos are somehow definitive or you were just being polite to posters here? I have used many cameras, so I do not have a stake in the results.

Ah, I see - you are pixel peeping using resolution charts. You are not commenting on actual videos.

Pixel peeping is totally out of place for video. You do not blow up video frames 200% and put your nose against the screen to watch films or video. Pixel peeping is relevant for stills, since one does blow up stills and people do view them up close. Video and film are viewed at a distance, proportionate to the size of the screen (the bigger the screen, the farther the viewer). What all will see in video (film) is color and dynamic range no matter what the distance, resolution is not first-order (most Alexas upscale to 4K). Most films "on the big screen" are seen at less than 4K.

DrDave

Looking at the 4K video samples on DPReview, the video resolution is absolute crap. I thought my glasses had fogged up.

markr041

DPReview Review (Gold Star)

https://www.dpreview.com/reviews/canon-eos-m6-ii-review

markr041

Shooting Clog3 internally using the DELUTS Clog3 Picture Profile:

This video was edited using Color Management in DaVinci Resolve, so the mathematical transform to REC709 was based on Canon's real Clog3, and seemed to result in a good picture (so the two are very close). Atomos also endorses this PP for use with the Ninja V, which also has a Canon Clog3 implementation. The M6 ii has 10bit 422 HDMI output, so one can shoot log with this camera and edit 10bit Prores clips. In camera, the clips are 8bit, of course.