There is a lot of conjecture here, but my observations are the following:

Fire sale of the GH5M2all over (Norway, UK, Germany). Mostly bodies as the GH5M2 kits have been sold out during the black friday week. UPDATE: One retailer lists the GH5M2 as discontinued.

Also hefty rebates in the GH6 last year (-500 USD in US, same as on the S5 mk I BTW, in europe it was 400 euro winter cash back). Current GH6 discount at B&H is still -300USD. GH6 lens kits sold out from many german retailers, some list mid march for new stock/replacements.

Also the 12-35 mm f2.8 mk II lens have been observed at dumping prices, i.e. buy a GH6 get the 12-35 mm f2.8 for FREE (Norway).

So my personal prediction; both the GH5M2 and GH6 are end-of-life. The last GH6 has probably already departed from the factory. New high end m43 camera, probably an upgraded GHx, with the new Pana Leica 12-35 mm f2.8 kit zoom, will be here in 3-4 months.

Possible/Likely announcement at CP+ in february.

In connection with a problem that I recently had and solved (see here: https://www.personal-view.com/talks/discussion/28027/gh1-.mts-file-corruption-anything-to-do-), I noticed then that there is an incompatibility: it is improper to have on the same sd card films shot with the setting "AVCHD Movie Mode" --> "Wrapper" --> "Native 24p/25p" and films shot without.

In my case, I saw that, after having installed the firmware with the hacked setting "AVCHD Movie Mode" --> "Wrapper" --> "Native 24p/25p", it was impossible to watch videos shot without this setting (i.e. shot with 50i): the camera would freeze, nothing more would happen, I had to switch the camera off. I repeated the procedure three times, and the same problem happened everytime with different clips shot with old settings (the three clips I shot with the new settings played fine).

I inferred from this, that I should avoid having the two types of videos on one single card.

It reminded me of a similar notice that I read in ptool: in "Patches for end users" --> "Movie related restrictions" --> "PAL <-> NTSC Menu" setting states in its /!\ warning: "You must clear sd card from other format footage".

If I may allow myself to make a suggestion for a future update of ptool3, I would say that the same warning ought to apply to the setting "AVCHD Movie Mode" --> "Wrapper" --> "Native 24p/25p", or an information to the effect that "There is an incompatibility between films shot with this new setting and films shot without it. Watching films shot with the old setting while the camera has the new setting might lead to camera freeze."

Cheers

Ludo

Still trying to find a solution to this problem (https://www.personal-view.com/talks/discussion/28027/gh1-.mts-file-corruption-anything-to-do-#Item_2).

I saw here (https://www.personal-view.com/talks/discussion/621/removing-the-corrupted-start-up-gh2-avchd-frames./p1) that it is possible to divide or cut films in the Lumix GH2 - and I suppose that it is also possible to do it in any of the later GH's as well, isn't it?

Now my question would be: is it possible to cut/divide a film that was shot with a GH1 in a GH2 or 3/4 and further? That means inserting an SD card that was formatted and used with a GH1 in a GH2 or even later... Could that work ?

Thanks for any suggestion and feedback on experience on this matter.

Ludo

If there is enough interest, I can begin to expand the profiles to support more video modes and various hacks beyond Moon T8.

I created a profile for each ISO setting, including secondary settings for the ISO bugged modes (up to 2500 ISO for those) ("clean" is normal, "dirty" is with the bug in case you forget to fix the problem and shoot with the ISO bug)

These profiles were created using the Smooth film mode at -2 -2 -2 -2, though they will probably still work with other modes. What is being picked up here is mostly sensor ISO noise since Moon T8's bitrate is so high.

The end result is that I have been able to recover about 1 - 1.5 stops of extra detail in the shadows on my shots as opposed to it looking like a total mess of noise. If you shoot at crazy high ISO settings, it can't make a shot at 12,800 ISO look like 200 ISO, but as long as your footage is reasonable, you can greatly expand the usable dynamic range of the camera and color grading is that much better.

These profiles should be used FIRST before doing any other processing such as grading, sharpening, scaling, or color correction. Etc...

The 1080p24 profiles seem to work fine on footage shot in variable mode, for example, if you use the 80% mode for slight slow motion.

Here is a link to an Imgur gallery showing what the profiles are capable of: Gallery

Download links:

1080p24 24H

1080p24 24L

1080p24 EX24H (Ex. Tele Convert Mode)

720p60 SH

So.... RS3 Pro is $900 and the Lidar module is $600, a whopping total of $1500. I have a few DJI gimbals, RS2 and RS3 Mini, which both can't support the Lidar module, so this is a toss. Also the RS3 Pro is a heavy and large gimbal which supports up to 4.5 kg payload. Overkill for most GHx cases. So, I can get the PDAF focus G9M2 in a few weeks for a few 100's more and use on my RS3 Mini and get the added benefits of the latest sensor performance and processing. As well as the more light weight gimbal. It really doesn't add up for me personally. And hoping for a GH7 announcement soon in any case.

This Lidar stuff would have been super like 5 years ago.

Undoubtedly someone which owns both the GH6 and the DJI RS3 Pro would find this more exiting news I would guess.

Key features

• 25 million pixel PLF-less sensor
• 100 million pixel high-resolution photo shooting
• 5.7K video
  • 5.7K 30p Apple ProRes 422 HQ 1.9Gbps
• New video modes
  • 4K120p 4: 2: 0 10bit 300Mbps
  • 4K 60p 4: 2: 2 10bit 800Mbps /
  • 600Mbps 5.7K 60p 4: 2: 0 10bit
  • 300Mbps C4K 120p 4: 2: 0 10bit
  • 300Mbps C4K 60p 4: 2: 2 10bit 800Mbps / 600Mbps
• Sensor read up to 300fps
• 4K resolution 120 fps
• Suppression of rolling shutter
• Computation processing capacity is doubled
• New Intelligent details processor
• New 2D noise reduction
• High performance 3D-NR for video
• Improved AF performance, processing speed is 3 times faster for DFD
• Card slots - CFexpress TypeB slot, UHS II compatible SD card slot
• Weight: 739g

Previous rumors

• Panasonic wants to add 8K support, most probably at 24p only
• m43 sensor can be first present only at GH6 presentation time and will be exclusive for 1-2 years
• 8K support can be interpolated (from around 5.7-7K), but can be true 8K, depends on sensor version Sony chooses
• Next focus will be improving high frame rates
• AF will be kept at same level, slightly faster, just with more options
• Will use this EVF - https://www.personal-view.com/talks/discussion/19797/meet-first-gh6-part-1600x1200-resolution-oled-evf#Item_1
• GH6 can be first camera with AI and cloud based features with monthly cost
• Other features can be possible to be enabled permanently, but paid, similar to V-LOG license
• Panasonic also wants to account for big currency fluctuations
• So, price will rise compared to GH5, but it can be GH6V (value edition) with 8K and other features disabled that you can buy later
• GH lineup, after one year of introduction, will be 3 cameras - GH6V, GH6 and GH6X (top one, similar to mix of G9 and GH5S)
• First announcement round will be fall of 2019 and next CP++ will be release time

I have this problem with my GH2 : the plastic On/Off switch is broken. No easy to find a solution.

When i see how open a gh2, this part seems to be complicated to access if i find this little plastic piece.

What can i do ?

Thanks.

I'm currently using a GH3 and the way to do a live stream seems to be via HDMI and a dedicated capture device (I have a Luki #1). I'm wondering: These days cameras have Wifi, are there any Panasonic cameras that can use their Wifi to livestream without any extra hardware required? Either directly to YouTube and other services or via a PC.

Alas, the GH6 released without PDAF and I quite frankly refused to get another Death from Defocus top model. And upgraded from the GH4 to the GH5M2 - which was a rather nice upgrade for sure after being financially challenged for the Panasonic IBIS days. A feature which also was long overdue on the Panasonic feature sheet at the time BTW.

As a long standing Lumix G / GH user today is "the day after" the glorious and extravagant full frame PDAF five day press junket release initiated in Japan in early december. And being under wraps until CES 2023 besides the usual leaks - intentional or not - to bring up the hype. And a nice press junket it seem be with a couple of dozen influencers (also previous DFD naysayers like iphonedo) which seems to carry home a new S5M2 camera and 6-7 lens selection as swag. Some have claimed that hardware will be returned, I'm not sure that's true. Here in Norway it's a financial burden to receive so much free stuff as a influencer / youtuber as you have to pay income tax on the retail value. I'll leave the junket and possible free stuff. After all envy is one of the seven deadly sins.

As a long standing Lumix G user whit no current plan to switch to the 35 mm sensor size the S5M2 launch was of course all about Panasonic implementing PDAF in a camera. Personally I don't find Lumix S to be the prefered «full frame» system of choise if such a investement should be made. Or perhaps divestment from Lumix G. The Lumix S lens range is rather limited to standard zooms at different price points. As well as five «videocentric» primes for the DOF crowd. There are currently no serious tele lenses, specialities like fisheye or ultra wide angle lenses in the lens map. Alas I find that the S5M2 or the whole Lumix S system for that matter is is basically the FF system for the causual kit zoom shooter.

Things may improve in the future, but heck for my personal needs I have wanted the glorious Sony G-master 12-24 mm f2.8 ever since it was released. If going FF.

Alas back to the junket and CES release. There does not seem to be any wording released on future cameras with PDAF. Not even a basic roadmap saying that PDAF will be in all new cameras from now on. Might be self explanary, but heck is a rather interesting thing for the crowd which does not crave for Pansonics new budget friendly «slow sensor» influencer FF piece.

Only the «micro four nerds» influencer @emilymaylowrey seems to have given the issue the proper exposure, stating that Panasonic engineers present at the junket in Japan declined to comment on the issue.

I really hope Panasonic is able to get a new premium Lumix G camera with PDAF out ASAP. A GH6M2. In the next six months. Or maybe Panasonic wants us all over to the glorious Lumix S line. I'm not taking the bait. Please give us long standing Lumix G users the real stuff. Preferably at CP+.

DFD is dead. Thank you.

Rumour: Lumix S5 replacement with phase detect autofocus...

Also the Lumix G 12-35 f2.8 lens was annouced with a Leica DG upgrade this week. This is clearly again a "kit zoom" for the upper end packages. It was one of the kit zooms back in the GH3 and GH4 days. Before the switch to the 12-60 f2.8-4 for GH5 and GH6. I guess there will be a new m43 camera announcement soon also with this as a kit lens. Hopefully also with that new phase detect autofocus which is rumoured after the december press junket in Japan. CES in january 2023 og CP+ show late february.

The Panasonic Leica DG Elmarit 200mm F2.8 is a fast telephoto lens that is equivalent to 400mm when mounted on a Micro Four Thirds body. (An included 1.4x teleconverter increases the equivalent focal range to 800mm.)

The lens probably only had a single production run. It was the single most expensive lens in the Pana Leica lens collection, retailing for a whooping USD 3000. It probably was a slow seller despite the premium optical quality.

Praise for the 200 mm:

While we are at it these lenses have also been discontinued in the past:

H-FSA45200
H-FS14140-KA / H-FS14140 (none splash proof design of the super zoom)
H-FS1442A-KA / H-FS1442A

The first one is perhaps better served by the Pana Leica 50-200 (at a premium price point).

The 14-42 kit lens is replaced by the 12-60 kit lens.

I am trying to make an open source replacement server so that the WiFi feature can continue being used to its full extent. It is possible, because one of the first things the camera does is download over http what root certificate it should use. I successfully set up a man-in-the-middle tool with the current Lumix Club server (lumixclub.panasonic.net), but it seems to be different than the old server (lumixclub.picmate.jp) and not provide all of the API's the older cameras need.

I am wondering if anyone has either of the following things:

1. A man-in-the-middle packet capture of a Lumix camera connecting to Lumix Club. This could be basic connection, uploading an image, uploading to cloud sync (Ustream etc). I did find one packet capture but they did not use a MITM tool so I can't see anything beyond the root cert download. It would be helpful to do this with a newer camera if possible while the service is still up, as there are probably still similarities between them.
2. A Panasonic ROM that has the wifi capability to connect Lumix Club, to extract the strings and/or disassemble it to see what sort of responses the camera is expecting.

Thank you in advance.

Do you know if it is possible to do video live streaming with any of the first three cameras of the GH series (GH1 or GH2 or GH3) ?

Over USB ? Or over HDMI ? (I would rather suppose over HDMI)

In case you were successful: you probably used a capture card - which card did you use ?

Thanks a lot for your answers.

Ludo

Specs

• 6K/24p (3:2 aspect ratio)
• 5.9K/30p (16:9 aspect ratio) video recording
• 4K DCI & UHD 4:2:2 10-bit 60p
• Dynamic range of over 14 stops
• V-Log/V-Gamut
• 4:3 Anamorphic mode
• No recording time limits
• $3990
  • https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1501344-REG/panasonic_dc_s1hbody_lumix_dc_s1h_mirrorless_digital.html
  • https://www.adorama.com/pcs1h.html
  • https://www.amazon.com/PANASONIC-Mirrorless-Recording-Capability-Multi-Aspect/dp/B07WSRHXPR/
  • UK - https://www.parkcameras.com/p/P016620K/mirrorless-cameras/panasonic/panasonic-lumix-s1h-full-frame-mirrorless-camera-with-cinema-quality-video

Consequence of killing their own LSI manufacturing and many developers:

All this "camera" has is quickly made site and few bad 3d renders for now.

The company is aiming to officially start shipping the production version of Alice to customers in the summer of 2021 with a retail price of £750 (~$955)

And some strange dumb plastic on working prototype.

On screen you see only smartphone cameras images nothing made by the "startup".

https://www.alice.camera/

is it possible to get an custom version of the PTool to disable the Autofocus Border on my GH2, i want to have an clean HDMI Output. If software is not any longer maintained, is there an open source version of it? Thanks.

Specs

• 24.2Mp 35mm FF CMOS sensor
• DR - 14+ stops (in V-Log)
• Video formats
  • MOV: H.264/MPEG-4 AVC, H.265/HEVC (Audio format: LPCM (2ch 48kHz/16-bit))
  • MP4: H.264/MPEG-4 AVC, H.265/HEVC (Audio format: AAC (2ch))
• Recording modes, MOV
  • FF, 4K, 3840×2160
  • 29.97p, 150Mbps (4:2:2 10-bit LongGOP) / 100Mbps (4:2:0 8-bit LongGOP) (H.264/MPEG-4 AVC, LPCM)
  • 23.98p, 150Mbps (4:2:2 10-bit LongGOP) / 100Mbps (4:2:0 8-bit LongGOP) (H.264/MPEG-4 AVC, LPCM
  • 25.00p, 150Mbps (4:2:2 10-bit LongGOP) / 100Mbps (4:2:0 8-bit LongGOP) (H.264/MPEG-4 AVC, LPCM)
  • FF, FHD, 1920×1080
  • 59.94p, 100Mbps (4:2:2 10-bit LongGOP) / 100Mbps (4:2:0 8-bit LongGOP) (H.264/MPEG-4 AVC, LPCM)
  • 29.97p, 100Mbps (4:2:2 10-bit LongGOP)/ 100Mbps (4:2:0 8-bit LongGOP) (H.264/MPEG-4 AVC, LPCM)
  • 23.98p, 100Mbps (4:2:2 10-bit LongGOP) / 100Mbps (4:2:0 8-bit LongGOP) (H.264/MPEG-4 AVC, LPCM)
  • 50.00p, 100Mbps (4:2:2 10-bit LongGOP) / 100Mbps (4:2:0 8-bit LongGOP) (H.264/MPEG-4 AVC, LPCM)
  • 25.00p, 100Mbps (4:2:2 10-bit LongGOP) / 100Mbps (4:2:0 8-bit LongGOP) (H.264/MPEG-4 AVC, LPCM)
  • APS-C / Pixel by Pixel, 3840×2160
  • 59.94p, 200Mbps (4:2:0 10-bit LongGOP) (H.265/HEVC, LPCM)
  • 59.94p, 150Mbps (4:2:0 8-bit LongGOP) (H.264/MPEG-4 AVC, LPCM)
  • 29.97p, 150Mbps (4:2:2 10-bit LongGOP) / 100Mbps (4:2:0 8-bit LongGOP) (H.264/MPEG-4 AVC, LPCM)
  • 23.98p, 150Mbps (4:2:2 10-bit LongGOP) / 100Mbps (4:2:0 8-bit LongGOP) (H.264/MPEG-4 AVC, LPCM)
  • 23.98p,50.00p, 200Mbps (4:2:0 10-bit LongGOP) (H.265/HEVC, LPCM)
  • 23.98p,50.00p, 150Mbps (4:2:0 8-bit LongGOP) (H.264/MPEG-4 AVC, LPCM)
  • 23.98p,25.00p, 150Mbps (4:2:2 10-bit LongGOP) / 100Mbps (4:2:0 8-bit LongGOP) (H.264/MPEG-4 AVC, LPCM)
  • APS-C, Anamorphic 4K, 3328×2496 (4:3),
  • 29.97p, 150Mbps (4:2:2 10-bit LongGOP) / 100Mbps (4:2:0 8-bit LongGOP) (H.264/MPEG-4 AVC, LPCM)
  • 23.98p, 150Mbps (4:2:2 10-bit LongGOP) / 100Mbps (4:2:0 8-bit LongGOP) (H.264/MPEG-4 AVC, LPCM)
  • 25.00p, 150Mbps (4:2:2 10-bit LongGOP) / 100Mbps (4:2:0 8-bit LongGOP) (H.264/MPEG-4 AVC, LPCM)
  • APS-C, FHD, 1920×1080
  • 59.94p, 100Mbps (4:2:2 10-bit LongGOP) / 100Mbps (4:2:0 8-bit LongGOP) (H.264/MPEG-4 AVC, LPCM)
  • 29.97p, 100Mbps (4:2:2 10-bit LongGOP) / 100Mbps (4:2:0 8-bit LongGOP) (H.264/MPEG-4 AVC, LPCM)
  • 23.98p, 100Mbps (4:2:2 10-bit LongGOP) / 100Mbps (4:2:0 8-bit LongGOP) (H.264/MPEG-4 AVC, LPCM)
  • 50.00p, 100Mbps (4:2:2 10-bit LongGOP) / 100Mbps (4:2:0 8-bit LongGOP) (H.264/MPEG-4 AVC, LPCM)
  • 25.00p, 100Mbps (4:2:2 10-bit LongGOP) / 100Mbps (4:2:0 8-bit LongGOP) (H.264/MPEG-4 AVC, LPCM)
• Recording modes, MP4
  • FF, 4K, 3840×2160
  • 29.97p, 72Mbps (4:2:0 10-bit LongGOP) (H.265/HEVC, AAC)
  • 23.98p, 72Mbps (4:2:0 10-bit LongGOP) (H.265/HEVC, AAC)
  • 29.97p, 100Mbps (4:2:0 8-bit LongGOP) (H.264/MPEG-4 AVC, AAC)
  • 23.98p, 100Mbps (4:2:0 8-bit LongGOP) (H.264/MPEG-4 AVC, AAC)
  • 25.00p, 72Mbps (4:2:0 10-bit LongGOP) (H.265/HEVC, AAC)
  • 25.00p, 100Mbps (4:2:0 8-bit LongGOP) (H.264/MPEG-4 AVC, AAC)
  • FF, FHD, 1920×1080
  • 59.94p, 28Mbps (4:2:0 8-bit LongGOP) (H.264/MPEG-4 AVC, AAC)
  • 29.97p, 20Mbps (4:2:0 8-bit LongGOP) (H.264/MPEG-4 AVC, AAC)
  • 23.98p, 24Mbps (4:2:0 8-bit LongGOP) (H.264/MPEG-4 AVC, AAC)
  • 50.00p, 28Mbps (4:2:0 8-bit LongGOP) (H.264/MPEG-4 AVC, AAC)
  • 25.00p, 20Mbps (4:2:0 8-bit LongGOP) (H.264/MPEG-4 AVC, AAC)
  • APS-C / Pixel by Pixel, 3840×2160
  • 59.94p, 100Mbps (4:2:0 10-bit LongGOP) (H.265/HEVC, AAC)
  • 29.97p, 72Mbps (4:2:0 10-bit LongGOP) (H.265/HEVC, AAC)
  • 23.98p, 72Mbps (4:2:0 10-bit LongGOP) (H.265/HEVC, AAC)
  • 29.97p, 100Mbps (4:2:0 8-bit LongGOP) (H.264/MPEG-4 AVC, AAC)
  • 23.98p, 100Mbps (4:2:0 8-bit LongGOP) (H.264/MPEG-4 AVC, AAC)
  • 50.00p, 100Mbps (4:2:0 10-bit LongGOP) (H.265/HEVC, AAC)
  • 25.00p, 72Mbps (4:2:0 10-bit LongGOP) (H.265/HEVC, AAC)
  • 25.00p, 100Mbps (4:2:0 8-bit LongGOP) (H.264/MPEG-4 AVC, AAC)
  • APS-C, FHD, 1920×1080
  • 59.94p, 28Mbps (4:2:0 8-bit LongGOP) (H.264/MPEG-4 AVC, AAC)
  • 29.97p, 20Mbps (4:2:0 8-bit LongGOP) (H.264/MPEG-4 AVC, AAC)
  • 50.00p, 28Mbps (4:2:0 8-bit LongGOP) (H.264/MPEG-4 AVC, AAC)
  • 25.00p, 20Mbps (4:2:0 8-bit LongGOP) (H.264/MPEG-4 AVC, AAC)
  • Slow & Quick FF, FHD, 1920×1080
  • 59.94p, 28Mbps (4:2:0 8-bit LongGOP) (H.264/MPEG-4 AVC, AAC)
  • 29.97p, 20Mbps (4:2:0 8-bit LongGOP) (H.264/MPEG-4 AVC, AAC)
  • 23.98p, 24Mbps (4:2:0 8-bit LongGOP) (H.264/MPEG-4 AVC, AAC)
  • 1, 2, 5, 10, 15, 30, 60, 100, 120, 150, 180 fps
  • Slow & Quick APS-C, Pixel by Pixel, 3840×2160
  • 29.97p, 100Mbps (4:2:0 8-bit LongGOP) (H.264/MPEG-4 AVC, AAC)
  • 23.98p, 100Mbps (4:2:0 8-bit LongGOP) (H.264/MPEG-4 AVC, AAC)
  • 1, 2, 5, 10, 15, 30, 60 fps
• Continuous Recordable Time
  • MP4 [4K/60p]: Approx. 110 min (APS-C, Pixel by Pixel) (LVF), 110 min (APS-C, Pixel by Pixel) (rear monitor)
  • MOV [4K/60p/4:2:0 10-bit/LongGOP]: Approx. 100 min (APS-C, Pixel by Pixel) (LVF), 110 min (APS-C, Pixel by Pixel)
• Actual Recordable Time
  • MP4 [4K/60p]: Approx. 55 min (APS-C, Pixel by Pixel) (LVF), 55 min (APS-C, Pixel by Pixel) (rear monitor)
  • MOV [4K/60p/4:2:0 10-bit/LongGOP]: Approx. 50 min (APS-C, Pixel by Pixel) (LVF), 55 min (APS-C, Pixel by Pixel) (rear monitor)
• 2.36Mdots, old tech OLED viewfinder
• 60 or 120Hz oled/screen refresh rate
• 3" LCD monitor with 1.84Mdots
• 6K PHOTO mode at 30 frames/sec
• Wave form monitor
• LUT View Assist (Monitor) / LUT View Assist (HDMI)
• Knee control in Like709 mode
• SuperSpeed USB 3.1 Gen1 Type-C port
• 2.5mm remote control port
• 3.5mm port for external microphone / external audio device
• 3.5mm Headphone Output
• MIC (Plug-in Power) / MIC / LINE is selectable
• SD Card Slots
  • Slot 1: Compatible with UHS-I/UHS-II UHS Speed Class 3 standard SDHC/SDXC Memory Cards and UHS-II Video Speed Class 90 standard SDXC Memory Cards.
  • Slot 2: Compatible with UHS-I UHS Speed Class 3 standard SDHC/SDXC Memory Cards
• Wi-Fi
  • 2.4GHz (STA/AP) (IEEE802.11b/g/n)
  • 5GHz (STA) (IEEE 802.11a/n/ac)
• Bluetooth v4.2 (Bluetooth Low Energy (BLE))
• Dust And Splash Resistant
• 7.2V, 2200mAh, 16Wh battery, USB charging
• 132.6 x 97.1 x 81.9mm (excluding protrusions)
• 714g
• $1999
  • https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1581612-REG/panasonic_lumix_dc_s5_mirrorless_digital.html
  • https://www.adorama.com/pcs5.html

Specs

• 61MP BSI-CMOS full-frame sensor
• On-sensor phase detection, improved AF
• Eye-detect autofocus
• Small body with twin control dials
• Dedicated Stills/Cine switch
• Silent electronic shutter (aka - no mechanical shutter)
• 8-bit UHD 4K/30p video, recording in MOV or CinemaDNG
• 4K output as up to 12-bit CinemaDNG to SSD, raw recording using external recorder
• Some new filters
• $2499
  • https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1632094-REG/sigma_c44900_fp_l_mirrorless_digital.html
  • https://www.adorama.com/sgfpl.html

Specs

• 20.33 million effective pixels
• 4K60p video
• 3.68 million dots 120fps compatible EVF
• DMW-BLK22 battery
• 138.5x 98.1×87.4mm
• 647g (main unit only)
• US price $ 1697 ($ 2297 for the 12-60mm kit).

Preorders

• https://www.adorama.com/ipcdcgh5m2.html?CategoryID=240617
• https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1639337-REG/panasonic_dc_gh5m2body_lumix_gh5_ii_mirrorless.html

Will be minor upgrade to the GH5 that will use existing L mount cameras LSI or even old GH5 LSI.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1GPtPEuCoz-1HNyGaH-FPu93S-RnvD5ud/view

Specifications

• 16mp m43 CMOS sensor without low pass filter
• Sensor based 5-axis stabilization, around 5 stops
• Improved 2.36Mpix OLED EVF
• 3" 1Mdot LCD
• Dual IS to work with lens IS improved to V2
• 4kp30, p24, 1080p60,p50 recording in MP4 up to 100Mbit, recording with 422 color encoding
• 422 recording, but not 10 bit as GH5, only 8bit
• 9fps shooting
• SD card slot with latest UHS support
• Usual Panasonic DFD tech
• Microphone socket, headphone socket
• Dust and water proof, magnesium body

PV Deals

• Body (black PAL, non EU, no limit) - $880 $799
• 14-140mm Kit (black PAL, non EU, no limit) - $1180 $1099

Both at http://www.personal-view.com/deals/cameras/panasonic#panasonic-g80-g85-g8

US Amazon

• $899 body - https://www.amazon.com/Panasonic-DMC-G85KBODY-Mirrorless-Interchangeable-Megapixels/dp/B01LYU3WZR/
• $999 kit - https://www.amazon.com/Panasonic-DMC-G85MK-Mirrorless-Interchangeable-Megapixel/dp/B01M050N05/

Specs:

• 20.3 Mp CMOS m43 sensor without AA filter
• 5184×3888 resolution
• 80 MP Pixel shift mode ala last Sony and Olympus cameras
• Oriented to photo guys, Panasonic marketing want G9 positioned further from GH5
• 4K 50/60fps video, no crop, on all the sensor, bitrate cut to 150 Mb/s
• 5 axis sensor based stab
• 6.5-stop Dual IS 2
• 3,680k-dot OLED LVF no blackout and 0.83x magnification
• Screen is not too good - 3 ” touchscreen, 1040kpts
• No flash like GH5
• WiFi and Bluetooth
• DFD autofocus, 255 points
• Shutter 1/8000 s – 60 s, Bulb (30 min max)
• Burst speed - 20 fps (AF-C), 60 fps (AF-S)
• Rear joystick
• Mono LCD on top
• Freeze and water proof up to -10 Celsius degrees
• Magnesium body
• 2x SD UHS-II slots
• USB 3.0 interface
• 6K Photo mode
• Large buffer with no slow down
• HDMI, remote control, microphone input, headphone output
• Li-ion 7.2V, 1860mAh, 14Wh battery
• Included - Belt, USB cable, charger
• 136.9 x 97.3 x 91.6 mm
• 658 g weight including battery and SD card
• Available in December 30
• $1699 body price at
  • https://www.amazon.com/Panasonic-Mirrorless-Megapixels-High-Resolution-DC-G9KBODY/dp/B0774KTV1X/
  • https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1367104-REG/panasonic_dc_g9kbody_lumix_dc_g9_mirrorless_micro.html
  • https://www.adorama.com/ipcg9.html
• UK pricing - £1499 body only, £1699 with Panasonic 12-60mm lens, or £2019 with LEICA 12-60mm lens.
• AU pricing - RRP AU $2499 body, AU $3499 for 12-60mm f/2.8-4.0 kit and, 12-35mm f2.8 for AU $3499.
• Grip at
  • https://www.amazon.com/Panasonic-Authentic-Vertical-joystick-DMW-BGG9/dp/B0774XGCDH/
  • https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1367122-REG/panasonic_dmw_bgg9_battery_grip.html
  • https://www.adorama.com/ipcdmwbgg9.html

Video modes

• 3840 x 2160 @ 60p at 150 Mbps, MP4, H.264, Linear PCM
• 3840 x 2160 @ 30p at 100 Mbps, MP4, H.264, AAC
• 3840 x 2160 @ 23.98p at 100 Mbps, MP4, H.264, AAC
• 1920 x 1080 @ 60p at 28 Mbps, MP4, H.264, AAC
• 1920 x 1080 @ 30p at 20 Mbps, MP4 or AVCHD, H.264, AAC
• 1920 x 1080 @ 60i at 24 Mbps, AVCHD, MTS, H.264, Dolby Digital
• 1920 x 1080 @ 60i at 17 Mbps, AVCHD, MTS, H.264, Dolby Digital
• 1920 x 1080 @ 23.98p at 24 Mbps, AVCHD, MTS, H.264, Dolby Digital

Specs

• $8898 at https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1682570-REG/leica_m11s_m11_rangefinder_camera_silver.html/specs

Triple Resolution Technology

Besides the 60MP resolution and BSI design, another first for M cameras is Triple Resolution Technology. This unique pixel binning process allows photographers to select 60MP, 36MP, or 18MP output, with each resolution making use of the full sensor area and providing rich 14-bit color. By pixel binning, rather than cropping, the lower resolutions have improved dynamic range and noise levels:

• 60MP: 14 stops of dynamic range, highest resolution
• 36MP: 15 stops of dynamic range, best balance of resolution and noise
• 18MP: 15 stops of dynamic range, lowest noise levels

Specs

• 24.6 megapixel back-illuminated CMOS sensor
• 5-axis image stabilization in the body that has the effect of 5.5 steps
• Maximum ISO sensitivity 100000
• Video modes
  • 4096 x 2160 @ 60p / 150 Mbps, MOV, H.264, Linear PCM
  • 4096 x 2160 @ 50p / 150 Mbps, MOV, H.264, Linear PCM
  • 4096 x 2160 @ 30p / 400 Mbps, MOV, H.264, Linear PCM
  • 4096 x 2160 @ 25p / 400 Mbps, MOV, H.264, Linear PCM
  • 4096 x 2160 @ 24p / 400 Mbps, MOV, H.264, Linear PCM
  • 3840 x 2160 @ 60p / 150 Mbps, MOV, H.264, Linear PCM
  • 3840 x 2160 @ 50p / 150 Mbps, MOV, H.264, Linear PCM
  • 3840 x 2160 @ 30p / 400 Mbps, MOV, H.264, Linear PCM
  • 3840 x 2160 @ 25p / 400 Mbps, MOV, H.264, Linear PCM
  • 3840 x 2160 @ 23.98p / 400 Mbps, MOV, H.264, Linear PCM
  • 1920 x 1080 @ 120p / 20 Mbps, MOV, H.264, Linear PCM
  • 1920 x 1080 @ 100p / 20 Mbps, MOV, H.264, Linear PCM
  • 1920 x 1080 @ 60p / 200 Mbps, MOV, H.264, Linear PCM
  • 1920 x 1080 @ 50p / 200 Mbps, MOV, H.264, Linear PCM
  • 1920 x 1080 @ 30p / 200 Mbps, MOV, H.264, Linear PCM
  • 1920 x 1080 @ 25p / 200 Mbps, MOV, H.264, Linear PCM
  • 1920 x 1080 @ 23.98p / 200 Mbps, MOV, H.264, Linear PCM
• multi-shot of 96 million pixels mode
• 146x107x83mm
• 850g (main unit only), 931g (including battery)
• The US price is $ 4,895
  • https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1609644-REG/leica_10880_sl2_s_mirrorless_digital_camera.html

Preliminary specs

• 16Mp m43 CMOS sensor, no AA filter
• 2.7Mp EVF
• Sensor based 5 axis stabilization
• 3" tilting touch screen
• Wi-Fi
• No microphone and headphone jack, only HDMI output
• 8fps continuous shooting, 6fps with C-AF
• 4Kp24, 4Kp25, 4Kp30, 100Mp max, 1080p60 at 50Mp.
• Silent Mode, Multiple Exposure
• Available in Black, Silver, Tan

• Manufacturer price $799 for 12-32mm kit, UK - £509 body only, £599 with 12-32mm

• Cheaper and better offer (unlimited ones!) at http://www.personal-view.com/deals/cameras/panasonic#panasonic-gx80-gx85